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Old 02-14-2007, 06:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Air Con on the track

Ok, this is a silly question but is it ok to have the air conditioning on while I am on a race track?

Its going to be 100deg F on the day I am hitting the track and we aren't allowed to have the windows down. I am scared of revving the a/c compressor so hard.

I have a Koyo dual row rad in my car too and running one step colder sparkplugs. So overheating isn't a concern.
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You'll get water on the track, and that's a big no-no around here.

Why do they make you run with the windows up? If you have an incident and can't open the door, that window is really going to slow your exit down.

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Old 02-14-2007, 06:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They are affraid your limbs might fly out I if you roll? I don't know. Its going to be stinking hot though in anycase.
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If you roll, the windows will shatter, so it doesn't matter either way, windows up or down.
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But in the case where they do allow A/C, will the revs hurt the compressor?
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Probably wear it out faster, but I sure as hell wouldn't get on a track where cars are leaking fluid onto the surface.
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I would think that any respectable race track would not allow A/C to be on while racing.
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i've been on the track when it was stinking hot.....

trust me, you don't notice it when you are racing. me thinks you should worry about other drivers + your driving + your car rather than feeling comfortable while you race
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah I am sure when I am concetrating I will forget the heat. They are going to make us wear flame proofs and FIA approve race suits . . .
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
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10 minute onboard hot laps

Yesterday I participated in a John Bowe High Performance Driving course at Sandown. It was an awesome day out with LOTS of track time. I completed 50laps. I mostly did about 4 flying laps followed by a cool down lap then out again. The instructor rode with me a few times to analyse my technique, surprisingly my lines were good and overall driving and car control was good. The only thing I needed to work on was my down shift timing. I tended to down shift too early (he reckons) but Gan San in Best Motoring says it better to downshift early to use the engine braking. Anyway, I took the feedback on board and as you see in the footage I got, I tended to downshift after 2/3rd of the braking was done.

The lude was "a fantastic car" according to the instructor who drove a few laps in it. I was chuffed.

I regret not having fitted semi-slicks because the Yokohama A500 (quiet comfort tyre) didn't really like track work.

There were quite a few hi performance cars there, 2 Elises, 2 Boxters, 1 911 GT2 (Twin Turbo), some Falcon GTPs which over heated after 4 laps. There were also some Targa prepped cars there, I was the only one not wearing semi-slicks! Everyone else had done lots of track time, and some were frequent Targa Tassie competitors who wanted to have an instrutor fine tune their skills.

It was a 38deg (100F) day yesterday with track temps around 50deg so those who had air con, used them (like me). The lude performed flawlessly, the massive radiator I installed did its job and I was able to keep doing laps, the main thing stopping me was me. I had to stop after 8 or so laps for a drink. I realised that the ECU turns off the A/C compressor at full throttle.

I started the day with the rear sway bar on Medium L Medium R, front and rear Tanabes on 3. This was good but I struggled with oversteer on corner entry. I had a huge moment at 140 with the car going into oversteer big time, had to take little bites with the steering wheel (don't want to over correct) and use the throttle to balance the car. I ended up setting the front Tanabes to full stiff which balanced the car out a bit. There were quite a few off track excursions from some people, including a big one for a 911 Carrera.

My brakes were fantastic, hardly any fade at all. I ran with RDA slotted rotors and QFM K750 750deg track day pads. In the video you will hear me say, something about no brakes but that was just the edge of my foot catching the throttle while braking. I was trying to look after the brakes as well, only using them 100% when doing timed laps. Otherwise I braked a little earlier and lighter.

The only casualties on my car were:

Tyres, Sandown is very hard on the right hand tyres. I had to rotate the right tyres halfway through the day. I really endeavoured to manage tyre wear, tried my best to avoid sliding where ever possible.





All things considered the tyres are pretty good considering I did 50 laps

The centre caps wiht the "H" logo melted off my front wheels. And my battery overheated and leaked some acid. Nothing that stopped me.

I got 1.5hrs of footage but here is a short version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arsmiygm-0Y
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I tended to down shift too early (he reckons) but Gan San in Best Motoring says it better to downshift early to use the engine braking. Anyway, I took the feedback on board and as you see in the footage I got, I tended to downshift after 2/3rd of the braking was done.
Think about this for a minute... What's cheaper to replace? Rotors and pads or an engine?
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Very true. I adjusted my driving based on the feedback. Must say it felt better.
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