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Old 08-08-2004, 06:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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NXT Wax question

I just picked up some NXT wax today. The directions say to apply a thin amount over the entire car and let dry to a haze. Does that mean to do the entire car before removing the wax? I thought you should do a section at a time?
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just waxed my car with NXT a few hours ago - second time I've used it. I never looked at the instructions but now that I've used it twice, it does make sense to wax the whole car or most of the car before you buff it. It worked fine when i did one section at a time but I found that it did come off a little easier when I let it sit for awhile after it hazes up. I'd do maybe half the car at a time if you'd rather not do the whole car at once.


by the way, if you have the paint properly prepped (clay bar and swirl remover if you need it) you'll be really happy with the NXT. My lude is silver, which tends to never look that bad but never look that great either - not like a just-waxed black car for example. But NXT made a difference over even Meguiar's Gold Class - a little extra depth and shine. Got lots of compliments on it.

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I've always waxed the whole car with an orbital buffer, let it set for 10 minutes or so and the wipe it off in the order I applied it. You want the wax to set up before you wipe it off, as it cleans off easier and leaves a coat behind.
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IMO the recommended 10-15 minute "curing/bonding" time is not enough. It could be because I apply too much wax or the outdoor elements are making it difficult for the wax to bond to the surface, but when I use NXT, I wax the entire car first, and let the wax sit on there for about 30 minutes. Of course the section of the car that was worked first would have cured for more than 30 minutes (maybe an hour if it takes me to wax the entire car 30 minutes), and the last section of the car would have cured for only 30 minutes. However I really didn't find much of a difference, as long as I let it cure for 30 minutes or more.

Regardless of the period of time where you let the wax bond to the surface, what's more important IMO and what will prevent the streaking is how much product you apply to the surface. Like many other waxes, a little goes a long way. I've found that a dime-sized amount of NXT for about half the hood of a Prelude is more than enough; you could probably use less than that. Just keep in mind that protection and looks come from layering - not overusing a product.
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Do you use the applicator pad they provide you with? Shouldn't that whole surface be coated with wax so you're not rubbing the bare foam on your paint?
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Shouldn't that whole surface be coated with wax so you're not rubbing the bare foam on your paint?
No, not at all. Your pad probably will be saturated with product, which will cover the entire surface of the pad eventually as you wax the entire car, but you shouldn't load up the entire pad initially on purpose. I like to put a dime sized drop near the edge of the pad, and work it on the surface. If I go over moldings that are dirty or go over sections of paint where dust has landed on it after a wash, I'll use another part of the pad.

If you're using an orbital buffer, it's easier to coat the entire pad first and go over multiple sections, but that's a different story. Also, if you drop the applicator pad they provide you with on the ground, don't reuse it because most likely it's contaminated. Besides, any foam applicator will work perfectly well.
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Do you use the applicator pad they provide you with?
Yes I do, and any foam applicator will work just as well.
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hmmm layering wax? is this carnuba based or snythetic?

I don't believe carnuba wax will layer..
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hmmm layering wax? is this carnuba based or snythetic?

I don't believe carnuba wax will layer..
Funny you should mention that caranuba wax won't layer. I have heard that somewhere before, but after doing a search over at Autopia caranuba does layer. The difference between synthetic and caranuba layering is on the time factor. Synthetic waxes need a time period for the chemicals to bond and cure, whereas with a pure caranuba wax, that bonding period isn't necessary - it's up to you.
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Can you wash the provided foam pad and re-use it? If so, do you just run warm water over it and scrub out the wax build-up?

One more question...do you remove the wax on the car with MF towels? I think I would rather use those than a terry.
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Well most carnuba based waxes have cleaners and wont layer well b/c of this..
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Can you wash the provided foam pad and re-use it? If so, do you just run warm water over it and scrub out the wax build-up?

One more question...do you remove the wax on the car with MF towels? I think I would rather use those than a terry.
Yes you can reuse foam pads. I wash them with Dawn dishwashing soap since I don't want to spend money on Sonus's MF and pad washing soap. You could use a soft bristled toothbrush and scrub as well.

I remove the wax on the car with MF towels, but not just any other MF towel. A cheap MF towel will marr your paint because of its harsh fibers, whereas a quality MF towel won't.
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Well most carnuba based waxes have cleaners and wont layer well b/c of this..
There are some caranuba waxes that contain cleaners, and some synthetic waxes that contain cleaners. I wouldn't say that there's more of one than the other though...if that makes sense. Both sides have waxes that contain cleaners and don't contain cleaners in other words. If you're concerned about caranuba waxes not layering, then I suggest using pure caranuba waxes. "Caranuba comes from the fronds of the "Tree of Life" (Copernicia Cerifera) native to Brazil. It is nature's hardest, purest and most transparent wax." (Info from Autopia Guide to Detailing V.3) It creates depth, darkness and a richer shine than synthetic waxes usually.
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^^ you certainly like your Dawn Dishwashing Soap.
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^^ you certainly like your Dawn Dishwashing Soap.
You can say that again .
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"^^ you certainly like your Dawn Dishwashing Soap."

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. Dawn works on everything...but I'm wondering what the long-term effects are if I keep using it on my pads.
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