well i decided to spend the day detailing only my hood today. the hoods the most important part of the body to me. anyways, so i washed, clay bared (smooooth), paint cleaned, polish and then wax. god its so damn smooth again i feel like im touching in invisible layer of water on my hood. anyways, to the point, i used Meguiars #7 profession show car glaze for the polish instead of my usual polish, just to see the difference.
the result: it kinda sucks... hard to apply, hard to get off, and most importantly it didnt help as much as my other polish in terms of improving gloss and deep shine. doesnt smell great either. but over all i must say it gets the job done i guess.
but the point of this thread is to tell u guys dont bother buying that product. if u want Meguiars, go for the #2 Crystal Polish instead. works much better, applies and removes much easier, smells better, and most importantly it gives better results imo.
so yea, just thought id give u guys a heads up. dont get the #7 show car glaze polish.
GO MEGUIARS!
(the #7 polish im talking about is the second pale bottle from the left. and the better #2 polish is the red bottle right next to it on its right)
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i never see the #2 polish at my local pepboys. how is it
better than the #7 show car glaze? does it produce
a deeper shine? also, i dont think the #7 polish is hard
to apply/remove at all.
Originally posted by SADWAP97 i never see the #2 polish at my local pepboys. how is it
better than the #7 show car glaze? does it produce
a deeper shine? also, i dont think the #7 polish is hard
to apply/remove at all.
u cant find the #2? its alot easier for me to find it than the #7. well its always sold in the 3 step crystal system. #1 is the paint cleaner, #2 is polish, and #3 is the wax. im sure ive seen it in pep boys, 100%. also at kragen, autozone, and i think walmart.
this is from what i experienced. when i used the #2, i actually noticed a slight difference in reflection when compared to a part that wasnt polished. it gave a more clear and sharper reflection. wehn i used the #7, i honestly didnt notice a diference at all if any. and as for applying, the #7 specified to used very small amounts. when i was spreading it, it felt it just desolves right away. also it did leave a few dry hazy marks that took a little extra effort to buff off. its nothing serious, but compared to the #2 i used earlier, the #2 was just more enjoyable to use. it felt "creamier" so it spreads easier and doesnt desolve right away and buffs away easier. also a big characteristic of #2 is that u can apply as much as u want, not limiting u to use a tiny bit at a time. so u can do bigger portions at once and u can double polish easier. as for #7, if u use alot at once, it dries or desolves away too quickly and u end up havin some hazy spots that u again have to buff off.
remember this is all from a persons experience. and a very paranoid one at that. so the difference might not make a difference to some people
Originally posted by AndoOKC I dont liek the #9 scarath remover. It didnt work. Maybe some one can fill me in on how to use it?
do u mean the #9 SWIRL remover? if so, sorry i cant shed any light on how to use it properly or somthing. i brought it... then i realized i dont have any swirls but its nice to have in my collection.
i did use the kinda new Meguiars Scratch X. it "kinda" works. but what most people forget is that all types of "scratch removers" dont completely cover up the mark like those phony tv commercials. they only "decrease" the noticeability. which is what it did on one of my scratches on the door. bad thing is, after a wash a month later, it seemed like it was bake to its ugly self.
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Yeah I use the #7 stuff...doesn't work that well and the smell is horrible. I think I'll try that #2 polish, thanks for the heads up!
Oh yeah...how do u prevent swirl marks? I assume by not washing the car in a circular motion but what else? I need to know before I wash my car again! hehe.
Originally posted by BLuE___PrELuDe Yeah I use the #7 stuff...doesn't work that well and the smell is horrible. I think I'll try that #2 polish, thanks for the heads up!
Oh yeah...how do u prevent swirl marks? I assume by not washing the car in a circular motion but what else? I need to know before I wash my car again! hehe.
u know, i can honestly say i dont have a single swilr mark anywhere on my lude. i dunno why. usually a metalic color is harder to see swirls with but even with my paranoia to keep it perfect, i seriously cant see any. i even wash and wax and everything in circular motion also, again commmon sense, make sure anything u use like sponges, towels, applicator pads, and whatever dont have any kind of contaminants on them. so as to prevent it rubbing ur paint without u knowing. for me, i always use new towels and applicator pads when i polish and wax. the sponge i use to wash my lude is pretty clean i guess...
but yea, liek i just said, u can try preventing it by doing any kind of rubbing on the body in a straight (up and down, left and right) fashion. so washing, waxing, cleaning, polish, whatever, try not to use circular motion. its kinda common sense. but imo i dont like applying wax and stuff in a straight line fashion... it just doesnt apply well and evenly...
but yea, that swirl reducer (#9?) in a light pale bottle is suppose to help reduce swirls by filling in those swirls. but i honestly dont like any of the professional series products for meguiars (all the pale colored ones). there is a gold class Surface Prep and Swirl Remover that i believe should work better (gold class anything rocks). but i have yet to see it sold in stores...
oh, and if u r gona try using any kind of "swirl remover/reducer" i suggest u just clay bar the paint or use a paint cleaner first to remove any contaminants washing couldnt take out.
u know, i can honestly say i dont have a single swilr mark anywhere on my lude. i dunno why. usually a metalic color is harder to see swirls with but even with my paranoia to keep it perfect, i seriously cant see any. i even wash and wax and everything in circular motion
but yea, liek i just said, u can try preventing it by doing any kind of rubbing on the body in a straight (up and down, left and right) fashion. so washing, waxing, cleaning, polish, whatever, try not to use circular motion. its kinda common sense. but imo i dont like applying wax and stuff in a straight line fashion... it just doesnt apply well and evenly...
but yea, that swirl reducer (#9?) in a light pale bottle is suppose to help reduce swirls by filling in those swirls. but i honestly dont like any of the professional series products for meguiars (all the pale colored ones). there is a gold class Surface Prep and Swirl Remover that i believe should work better (gold class anything rocks). but i have yet to see it sold in stores...
oh, and if u r gona try using any kind of "swirl remover/reducer" i suggest u just clay bar the paint or use a paint cleaner first to remove any contaminants washing couldnt take out.
Wow thanks for the very extensive post! Hehe yeah I don't wash in a circular motion nor do I apply my wax/glaze whatever in a circular motion so that's a relief. Oh yeah quit bragging about your freakin swirl free lude! lol j/k
Oh yeah I agree about the hood being the most important aspect of the car exterior wise...I mean nothing beats a hood free of swirls and defects. Especially when it's more reflective than a mirror!
Last edited by Blue___Lude; 06-12-2001 at 01:52 AM.
Originally posted by BLuE___PrELuDe
Oh yeah I agree about the hood being the most important aspect of the car exterior wise...I mean nothing beats a hood free of swirls and defects. Especially when it's more reflective than a mirror!
Hey NG - be careful what you tell these guys. Seriously. I know what you're talking about when you say #2 polish - you're referring to the second step of their lower end Deep Crystal 3 step process. However - if they don't understand that, they could mistakenly buy the Professional bottle that says #2 on it which is Fine Cut Cleaner and could seriously screw up their paint jobs if used wrong...
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Originally posted by IXLR8 Hey NG - be careful what you tell these guys. Seriously. I know what you're talking about when you say #2 polish - you're referring to the second step of their lower end Deep Crystal 3 step process. However - if they don't understand that, they could mistakenly buy the Professional bottle that says #2 on it which is Fine Cut Cleaner and could seriously screw up their paint jobs if used wrong...
Just a little heads up BTW - Congrats on the moderatorship You get stumped on any questins - give me a holler
hehe, thanks! yea i was pretty sure no idiot would hold a bottle that says fine CUT cleaner and think "but it has #2 on it, this must be POLISH" and if im not mistaken, the cut cleaners require a buffer as said in the directions. im sure everyone reads over the directions before buying car care products... or is it just me?
hey ng, most of those mirror glaze lines you can use with a foam applicator pad,like the fine, medium and heavy cut cleaner. i have the medium at home and i use a foam pad to apply, but i also have a buffer too. but all i have to say is dont use the cleaners unless u know what ur doing cause they cause alot of scratches in the paint if used wrong.
Originally posted by GldCrzy hey ng, most of those mirror glaze lines you can use with a foam applicator pad,like the fine, medium and heavy cut cleaner. i have the medium at home and i use a foam pad to apply, but i also have a buffer too. but all i have to say is dont use the cleaners unless u know what ur doing cause they cause alot of scratches in the paint if used wrong.
actually i just checked and im sure that the fine-heavy cut cleaners should only be applied by rotary buffers and not be hand. at least its not recommended to, but it doesnt mean u cant. but the point is, the cut cleaner line is specifically designed for machine action.
Originally posted by Ng Luder
the result: it kinda sucks... hard to apply, hard to get off, and most importantly it didnt help as much as my other polish in terms of improving gloss and deep shine. doesnt smell great either. but over all i must say it gets the job done i guess.
How did you find it hard to apply? To me, it seemed about the same as the #2 polish.
How did you find it hard to apply? To me, it seemed about the same as the #2 polish.
i found it harder, not hard, to apply... i just had an easier time spreading the polish of the #2 alot more than the #7. i think i said before, its just "creamier" than the #7 from what i experienced. the #7 kinda desolved right away once i applied it on the paint. not to mention ur directed to apply small amounts at a time, which i guess contributes to how it didnt spread as well. for #2 u can put as much as u want really and still have everything work out great at the end.
just wanted to say again though, im not sayin #7 is worse than #2. just that if i were to pick one up from the store, i would recommend #2 to the average consumer over #7.
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