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Old 04-23-2006, 11:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Buffing emergency!!!!!!!

Ok so i have this terrible issue!!!!
I have an orbital buffer, usually buff at around 1200 rpm with 3M perfectit glaze compound and all seems well.
But on dark car, after buffing and everythign seems so perfect, in the sunlight, u can see these swirls!!!!! all following the path of the buffer, they look like HUGE streaks, and they look HORRIBLE.
Now i gotta buff my uncles Meredes s class for him, and the last thing iwanna do is RUIN it.
SO PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME OUT
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The swirls were probably there before you buffed out all the dirt. You should probably see if using polish to fill them in will do the trick. and then wax over that.. that is what I would try but maybe you can check some of hte other detaailing forums on the internet.
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hey i work for carmax and i know a thing or two about that, it called "swirl marks" to fix this problem do what is called a checker board pattern go left to right then up to down, and vice versa. and it should take care of it.
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hey i work for carmax and i know a thing or two about that, it called "swirl marks" to fix this problem do what is called a checker board pattern go left to right then up to down, and vice versa. and it should take care of it.
If the surface/pad was already clean to begin with, and the methods used to wipe off the residue was perfect, then the method you prescribed would be the same as the one he used.

To the OP, you need to get yourself a polish and a wax or some type of sealant that fills in the swirls. I'd go by hand rather than using the orbital buffer this time with the polish. Before you start polishing, you should clay the surface of the car to get rid of surface contaminants. Then, use something like Meguiar's ScratchX with a 100% cotton terry towel folded into 1/8ths, and use firm even pressure going in linear motions. Afterwards, type off the residue with the most expensive microfiber towel you can find (so that you lessen the chances of getting some cheaper version with harsh fibers) and buff off the residue. Use any wax that fills in swirls like Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax, and you should see better results.
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well, after buffing. I always use mothers 3 step wax, replacing the final step with zymol.
Step 1 is removal of oxidation, old wax and sealant, i use a fresh random orbital wax applicator, step 2 is a filler, gets all the lil nooks and crannys (works well), and the third step is my favorite of all waxes, zymol.
Now after the jobs done, with the wax, it looks pristine. Perfect, no nothing....BUT.........after the wax gets washed off and a month or so later.......the swirls come back......THATs the issue
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well, after buffing. I always use mothers 3 step wax, replacing the final step with zymol.
Step 1 is removal of oxidation, old wax and sealant, i use a fresh random orbital wax applicator, step 2 is a filler, gets all the lil nooks and crannys (works well), and the third step is my favorite of all waxes, zymol.
Now after the jobs done, with the wax, it looks pristine. Perfect, no nothing....BUT.........after the wax gets washed off and a month or so later.......the swirls come back......THATs the issue
It's because you're not getting rid of the root of the problem - the swirls. It takes a combination of abrasives and leveling power to get rid of the micromarring that's done to the clearcoat. The buffer you used probably doesn't generate enough heat to really polish the clearcoat, and the steps I listed is one way to do it by hand. Rather than going to the store and spending $100+ on a dual action random orbital buffer, it's a cheaper alternative to solve your current problem. However, it wouldn't hurt to look into getting a polisher that will help you out more in the long run.
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