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Old 02-01-2011, 03:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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performance problem.

Is it possible to put a b16 or b18 in my 89 prelude? I have an a18 in it right no and i have a motor that there are limited parts for.
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Normally I'd give you a flat out "no" to that question. I have heard of one or two people actually doing a b18 or b16 swap successfully, but they didn't give any details or post any pictures of it so who really knows for sure. The most supported swap for 3rd gens is an h22 swap. There are a couple companies that make the mounts and axles for this swap, and there is documented instruction on how to do it. I personally know several people who have done this swap.

But you claim to have an a18 in your 3rd gen. If this is the case, you already have custom mounts for that block. I'm not familiar with the configuration of the a18, but I do know that engine was installed in a lot of 2nd gen preludes, and b18 swaps are more common with that generation from what I've read.
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it say the a18a right on the block so idk? I know those numbers cant just be put there. whats the difference between a18a's mounts and the b18 mounts and would the b18 mount to my tranny?
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this is the only pic i have of my car.i dont have a pic of the motor or anything just yet.
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this is the only pic i have of my car.i dont have a pic of the motor or anything just yet.
That's really the only pic I needed to see. Just as I suspected, the car in that picture is a 2nd generation prelude (83 - 87). The a18a is a stock motor for your car. While I don't generally hold a lot of stock in Wikipedia, the Honda Prelude Wiki is actually pretty accurate. Here is a link to it for you...

Honda Prelude - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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yea but mine isn't carbureted. its fuel injected.
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thanks for the information. Wikipedia is a great place.
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so what do you think of the ride?
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My biggest problem with Wikipedia is the fact that anyone can go in and edit the pages - fact by committee. This is good because you can get information from a lot of sources. But you can also get misinformation from people who don't fully understand the subject, or think they know something but are mistaken.

I like the ride. 2nd gens are my second favorite lude. Just my opinion, but you should color match the hood if it's not really carbon fiber.
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i think the black hood gives it a more sporty look to it. im going to repaint it a fresher read and keep the hood black but gloss.
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Suit yourself, it's your car. I definitely like the idea of repainting it though. Red ludes rule.
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are those yours in the pic above?
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Yes, the red one is my 89 Si 4ws and the white one is my 91 Si.
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do you plan on lowering them at all? what all is done to them?
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The white one is pretty much bone stock. I originally bought it as a parts car because the person I bought it from thought the engine was going out. It turned out to be a bad crankshaft pulley, and I actually fixed it before driving it home the day I bought it. Now there's no way I'm parting out this car. I'm actually planning on selling it to make room for a real parts car...lol.

I've done a lot to the red lude. It had been rear-ended and had a blown engine when I bought it for $400 a few years ago. I did all the repairs myself. It now has a JDM b20a engine, DC Sports header, 2.5 inch Magnaflow exhaust, braided stainless steel brake lines, strut tower braces front and rear, Whiteline sway bars, 15 inch Koenig Monsoon rims with 205/55/15 General Exclaim UHP tires, and new Phoenix red (r51) paint. This one is my pride and joy, and have plans this year to install k-sport coil over shocks and replace all of the suspension bushings. I will then be able to lower it for the summer and raise it up to stock height for the winter because I do drive this car year round.
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That's badass! i like the white on it looks pretty clean. how hard is it painting a car like the gloss part is what I'm afraid of. I've painted both my trucks my 63 c10 is a rat rod flat black red wheels and my 86 is a hot rod and its all primered block sanded wet sanded not painted and the lude needs a paint job pretty badly.

So is it hard to lay the clear coat? Ive never done clear coat. I've read up on automotive painting but I just want to know how hard it is.

Oh another question will a b20a fit I'm my little lude and if i can will it bolt up to my 5 speed that's already in it??? Where are you finding all your parts for your lude?
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I've never shot a two stage paint on a car (base coat plus clear). I've only ever used a single stage paint. The most important part of a paint job is prep. You need to be meticulous in any body work and sanding. It takes time to learn how to do it. It's easy to paint a car a flat color because a lot of the small imperfections in the prep work are hidden. But glossy paint shows the flaws, especially darker colors. You can read all the books in the world, but it won't come close to the benefit of experience. Practice and experience is what makes a paint job look great.

Another important thing to keep in mind is to have a good paint booth. Even if you do all the prep work right, and can shoot the paint without any drips or sags, a little bit of dust can ruin what would have been a spectacular paint job.

As far as engines go, I'm really not very familiar with the 2nd gen Preludes. But you would have a very difficult time installing any 3rd gen engine into your car. I do know that there was a particular version of the b20a that is different from the 3rd gen b20a, and came in some 3rd gen Accords and very few 2nd gen Preludes. But I've heard it's very difficult to locate one.

I get most of my parts from junkyards near me. The type of yards where you take your tools, pay a couple bucks to get in, and pull the parts yourself. Most have very low prices. There are also a few places that sell aftermarket 3rd gen parts. I don't know what the 2nd gen parts availability is, but I suspect it's worse than it is for 3rd gens.
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The motor is an a20a3.
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