So I was driving last night and i met this guy the other day that drive a hatchback civic with a N/A built up motor, and he thought he could beat me in a race. Well, long story short i smoked him . Anyway, he had a friend with him, i forgot his name, but he said that like two years ago he had a car exactly like mine ('91 Si) and he said he could run a 9.4 quarter!!! I said absolutely not and he said he had a b18z engine, a T4 turbo, headers, exhaust, intake, all that good stuff. It was fully intercooled with a new fuel rail, boosted fuel pressure, and he said he was running the turbo at 22 psi. He claims he had the heads redone and re-inforced, the valves were after market, new rings, so supposedly he could take that kind of turbo pressure. So is this guy full of it or what??
Stan
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Not if he can show you a timeslip. Anyone can tell you anything, but proof is hard to come by. Personally, I doubt those numbers are attainable regularly - which could be why he said he had the car. But I have an open mind and if anyone can support those numbers, I'd be a believer. Or maybe he meant 1/8 mile.
oh yeah he said he totalled the car a year ago or somethin'. Another thing is his engine was completely clean (no ALB, no A/C, no battery, 7 pound fly wheel) if this helps, i'm going to find the dude tonight and ask him for some form of proof.
Preyluder, i think a b18z is an integra VTEC engine JDM style, but i'm not positive. In my town there are like 10 cars with em' now, mostly civics and a couple of accords. They're faster than F*** in the civics. At our grudge matches we have at the strip every other friday, a guy with a b18z ran a 10.8 quarter in his civic.
Oh it's a B18c sorry, it's Integra VTEC Type-R JDM. Like 180 ponies stock i think.
Stan
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-Custom Cleared sidemarkers, front and back blinkers
-Battery relocated to trunk
-Magnaflow dual tip muffler
Last edited by BlackSpeedLuda : 07-07-2002 at 12:44 PM.
Originally posted by BlackSpeedLuda Oh it's a B18c sorry, it's Integra VTEC Type-R JDM. Like 180 ponies stock i think.
Stan
Yeah, I figured it was a typo. They make about 197hp. GSR's are 180. The big difference is that in the Hype-R everything is lightened (no sunroof, lightened chassy, etc) so those ponies can go further. Still, I think he's trying to save some face with an exciting story.
Oh, it's a b18c, okay, well that makes more sense. Yeah, try to find the dude, ask him for a dyno sheet or time slip, or a picture or something. Also, ask him if the car was street driven. If this is true, I will be VERY impressed.
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pure BS. Just because every car was supposedly 10 secs which in real life they weren't he probably thought the same way. A 10 sec ca is SOOOOO hard to make. If he said 12's I might believe it. But 9's and to stay street legal is very hard. I know a guy who has his engine tuned the way u described that guys supposed lude and he is running 12's and its a 92 Civic hatch which is much lighter then a 3rd gen.
i guarentee you that is a lie. I would bet my car on it right now. Everyone knows how much ive done to my car, and im runing 14.15 without turbo or NOS, and around low 12's with turbo. for one, a b18C5 with a 7 pound flywheel?!? i dont think so. The torque on that engine would crunch it like tin metal. I guarentee you it is BS. do you understand how fast a 9.4 really is?
hmmm well this just means when i get my lude to run a 9.9 1/4 mile i'll have to post the picture/ video and time slip huh? Should be next summer when i can get the lud that fast.
well, if you have enough money, I suppose anything is possible...however, even if he was making this mad power, how would he put it on the ground? I know that link to Rocketlude's 550hp beast is a testament to the lude engine...however, he spins his tires through the first four gears and can't get **** for traction...besides, that'd be a horrible daily driver...
Ok actually there is a B16ZC engine is the ones out of the old CRX's I belive. Not 100% on that though.
I pulled up the other day to an older style Civic like a boxy late 80's one and they guy was Fing FAST and he had a B16ZC and it pumps out like 140 hp stock but he had it all built up adn it was clean I being my stupid self Did nto even bother to look at the Damn engine stamp. I was to stupified by his engine bay.
!!CLEAN !!
Anywho it is possible but like Iceman said the Flywheel way to light for that much power. 9's is about 260 WHP for our cars, which I am guestimating here is about almost 300HP please correct me if I am wrong there though ok.
Anywho the B16ZC of sorts has more torque then the B16 Si motor. ACCORDING to the guy I talked to and I can tell you that he Blew me away. I mean I am not all that fast low 16's but he was smoking.
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Yes, it is D16ZC, it is like the 91 CRX SI motor, but it has DOHC rather then SOHC. Same block, different head. They are cheap as hell too. i see them being sold around my house for around 300.00 or so. maybe i will go buy me a junky crx, and put it in. hehe. parts are so cheap for that engine! sucks.
Originally posted by RedRacerX Anywho it is possible but like Iceman said the Flywheel way to light for that much power. 9's is about 260 WHP for our cars, which I am guestimating here is about almost 300HP please correct me if I am wrong there though ok.
No, 260 whp on our cars is good for low to mid 13's. You'd need about 500-600 hp in a 3g lude to run 9's.
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Thanx for setting me straight on that one guys. Also thanx Preyluder89 I figured it would be alot but Damn that is alot.
But I have seen several Ludes that have like the B18C engines in them like ht GSR engine and others that have put in B16 engines but I would not spend that kind of money for a swap I would just go H22
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Relocated Battery,Modified Civic Intake, 2.25 High Flow Cat,
2.25 Custom Cat back piping, RACtive tip,H&R sport springs,
and Tokico Blues.
Actually, now that you guys bring up the CRX's B16ZC.....
I have heard of mating some CRX head, although I do not know which one, to a B20Z block that makes some insane power. It is _NOT_ a daily driver. It is a high 9 sec monster CRX with a CR-V block. He may have been trying to make that his story, but either way he's just ghey.
threeg, you got your engines all mixed up. the ZC motor is a D16ZC, and the CRV block is a B20B. and no, that will not produce a 9 sec crx. not even a 13 sec. You dont put the D16ZC motor ontop of the CRV block, but you put either a B16A or a GSR. This set-up is used for turbo's, since the compression is SOOO low.
Thus the reason that our cars are so nice to Turbo. Our compression ratio is 9.0 for the 2.0's and I think about 9.5 for the 2.1's that is really low in the world of Honda motor's.
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Relocated Battery,Modified Civic Intake, 2.25 High Flow Cat,
2.25 Custom Cat back piping, RACtive tip,H&R sport springs,
and Tokico Blues.
Hellz yeah it is jsut a Biatch to get it in your car but like we say money cures all problems with our cars.
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Relocated Battery,Modified Civic Intake, 2.25 High Flow Cat,
2.25 Custom Cat back piping, RACtive tip,H&R sport springs,
and Tokico Blues.
Ok well i couldn't find the guy the other night, but we went to the drags for grudge matches, and a guy with a '93 Civic that has the same b18c and a t4 turbo, JUST like this guy had in his lude ran a 10.5 quarter. He has some big ass tires on the front, slicks, and he had it dynoed and had 310 whp. NO JOKE. The car's unbelievable, he spent $8000 on all of his ****, and it IS faster than a mofo. but, i still don't believe this other prelude guy, 9's are way too fast, that's pushing 160 mph isn't it?
. Anyway, he had a friend with him, i forgot his name, but he said that like two years ago he had a car exactly like mine ('91 Si) and he said he could run a 9.4 quarter!!! I said absolutely not and he said he had a b18z engine, a T4 turbo, headers, exhaust, intake, all that good stuff. It was fully intercooled with a new fuel rail, boosted fuel pressure, and he said he was running the turbo at 22 psi. He claims he had the heads redone and re-inforced, the valves were after market, new rings, so supposedly he could take that kind of turbo pressure. So is this guy full of it or what??
I was to stupified by his engine bay.
