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Old 04-08-2003, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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B20A3 to B20A5 write up

3rd Generation prelude B20A3 to B20A5 Engine swap
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The B20A3 to B20A5 swap is not extremely difficult, with a good knowledge of cars and a friend with knowledge of cars it can be done fairly easily. The swap is a learning experience, people say “Why don’t you get an Si?� but you don’t learn as much with just buying a new car. You will need a factory service manual. Don’t try to do the swap without one. They are invaluable; you use them so much not only for the swap but just for maintaining your car. Just to let you know, you will have to rewire the entire car. The whole interior wiring and all the engine wiring will need to be replaced. You will also have to add an Si fuel pump and a return fuel line to the pump. I have broken the swap into the specific parts of the swap, the actual engine swap, fuel system, and the wiring. I didn’t take picture while I was in the process of doing the swap, because I was moving at fast pace and taking pictures every time I did something would have slowed me down considerably.
The swap cost me $3155. That cost includes the engine, the rebuild kit, block work, head work, new oil pump, all the wiring, the ECU and miscellaneous junkyard parts. You can get a JDM B20 for $600 and just get the parts and swap the motor in The cost will cost less if you don’t do the work to the engine and rebuild it. I close to rebuild and do performance work on the motor, you don’t have to if you don’t want, or have the money, but I recommend it.
The swap can be doe in any home garage as long as you have the right tools. A car lift would make is way easier, but it is not necessary. I did it with the on 4 jack stands.
This is just how I did this swap; you don’t have to follow every step I did or do everything I did. Also I just recommend doing some things; you can get away without doing them.
If you have any questions about this swap Contact me At :
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Engine Removal
In this section I will discuss in a general way, removing the engine. Going into specific details would make this write up over 10 pages, and I think you can figure out how to remove your engine by following this and with a helms manual.
Jack the car up and put jack stands under it so that the car is high enough off the ground that you can comfortable get under it and take stuff out. Make sure you put the jack stands along the frame rail.

• Remove the hood
• Disconnect the battery and remove the tray.
• Drain the Cooling system, you don’t have to drain the oil if you don’t want to, it’s all sealed up inside the engine.
• Remove:
• The air cleaner box
• All of the vacuum lines going to the engine
• Remove the Vacuum control box
• Cruise control
• Remove all accessories, alternator, power steering, a/c, starter and anything else connected to the motor
• Remove the splash shield and cross member under the car
• Take the exhaust downpipe out.

• Take the tranny bolts from the engine and support the engine with a lift.
• Remove the motor mount bolts, there are 3 motor mounts.
• Make sure nothing is connected to the engine in the engine bay, and make sure nothing will prevent it from coming out
• Pull the engine out slowly and separate it from the tranny with a prybar.
• Slowly remove the engine


Fuel System
The Si fuel system is completely different than the S fuel system. For the Si fuel system you will need to install a Fuel pump, And a return fuel line. You will utilize the existing metal lines. The fuel feed line and vapor pipe. The return fuel line comes off of the Fuel pressure regulator on the Fuel rail, and returns unused fuel to the tank.
Fuel Pump:
The fuel pump is located under the access cover on the driver’s side. It is a round cover sealed in place by glue. It would be a good idea to drain the fuel tank by removing the drain plug Remove the cover and you will see the fuel pump and the screws to remove it. Remove the fuel lines first. One is attached with a banjo bolt, and the other is secured by a hose clamp. Remove both hoses. The fuel pump is geld in by 8 10 mm bolts. Remove the bolts, and pull the fuel pump out. To fabricate a return fuel line you will need Metal fuel line to run under the car. Approximately 10 ft of metal line was used, and 5 feet of rubber hose for the return fuel line. The hose runs along the frame rail under the car and into the engine bay. I bent the line by hand so it would reach the fuel pump. At the backside of the metal line I attached rubber hose to it and attached it to the return nipple on the fuel pump. From under the engine bay, I used the rubber line to attach the line to the Fuel pressure regulator. Secure all rubber lines with clamps.

Wiring
Here is a picture of the wiring that came out of the car to give you an idea how much is going to come out:
Most of it is the interior wiring.
This is the most time consuming part of the swap. All of the wiring will need to be replaced. This is easiest to do before you install the engine.

Interior wiring: The interior wiring is located behind the dash and behind the heater box and blower motor. Following the helm manual in this phase of the swap is crucial.
Remove the gauge cluster, the glove box, the plastic piece that goes around the shifter, the panel that holds the radio, and the heater controls. Next, remove the dash itself. There are 5 bolts bolting it in. one behind the clock, one in each side of the das and one in each front side of the dash behind a plastic panel. With the dash out, drop the steering column to give you more room to and more space to get to the wiring. After the steering column id dropped remove the metal braces on the driver’s side. They are like tubes with flattened ends. With those removed, remove the heater ducting. Disconnect all connectors. Ex, the brake light switch, the clutch switch, the fuse block, all the wires going into the little blue junction box on the left side etc. The wiring is held in place by little clips, remove them if you can, but I just broke them off. Now, remove the heater core. It is bolted in, inside the car and in the engine bay. Make sure the hoses are disconnected, and pull the box out. Remove the blower motor next. It is bolted in inside the car. Disconnect all wiring from the junction on the passenger side of the car. And the wires going to the ECU. . The harness runs under a blue piece of plastic on the passenger side. You will have to pull up the carpet to access it. The wiring goes up along the passenger side under the rear seat, and up to a hole where the wire split apart. The fuel pump and fuel gauge sending unit need to be disconnected and pulled up through the holes. To access the fuel sending unit remove the passenger side access cover. Disconnect all connectors an pull the harness out. The new harness goes exactly where the old one came out. There is not much to it, just pull the old wiring out, put the new wiring in and put the dash back together. Just connect the interior harness to the right and left side harnesses through the junctions on their respective sides. Make sure you put the main relay in, the car wont run without it.

Engine Bay Wiring:
Remove the front bumper, it will give you access to the wiring the runs along the radiator.
While the engine is out, look for all connectors in the engine bay and disconnect them. Such as wires to temp sensor in the radiator, headlights, headlight motors, ac pressure switch cruise control…etc. Pretty much if you see wires, remove them. All wiring will need to be removed and replaced. Most of the wiring is held to the body with a zip tie clip thing. I just cut the clip with wire cutters to get the wiring out. Unscrew the fuse box and put it to the side.
Under each fender there is a plastic inner fender held on my plastic Screw clips. Try to remove the clips without breaking them, but the screw heads will probably break and you will have to break them to get them out.
The old one is on the left, and the new one on the right. If you can’t unscrew them, just break them. They are easily replaceable and easy to put back in. By removing the inner fenders you have access to the wiring going into the car. With the wiring disconnected inside the car, pull the wiring out of inside the car through the hole it is in. The wiring can now be pulled out through the holes in the fender. This is the same for the left and right side harness. To replace the wiring feed the interior connectors through the hole and the engine connectors through the fender. Pretty much put the new wiring exactly where the old wiring was.
Once all wiring is in place you are ready for dropping the new motor in
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Engine Installation

The engine installation is the exact same as the engine removal. Before you install the engine, wire it with the engine wiring harness. Put the oil filter on, spark plugs, and wires. The engine harness you have must be the same year the right side harness. An 89 right side harness and a 91 engine harness will not work. Do not install any accessories on the engine. Remove the harmonic balancer also, it will make installation easier.
Lift the engine with a lift and place it above the engine bay. Slowly lower the engine into the engine bay. When it is almost in, you will need to stab the tranny into the engine. This took me about half an hour of fighting with the tranny and motor. The tranny has to be inserted into the motor. I used prybars and different engine tranny positions until I finally stabbed it in. At that point in installed a few tranny housing bolts. To keep the tranny held in place.
Lower the engine and put the bolts in the engine mounts and torque them down. The engine is now installed. Attach all hoses, the shift cables, and connect all wiring to the right side wiring harness. Now install the accessories, and other items such as the new vacuum control box.
Do everything opposite from the engine removal. Check to make sure everything is installed and torqued down.
Install the battery and check the interior and lights. Put the key in the on position and check all electrical things before trying to start it. Check lights, turn signals, head lights, dash lights, brake lights, radio, and anything else you can think of. Leave the key in the on position and smell the inside of the car for burning wires. Make sure you don’t smell anything burning; if you do you have something mixed up somewhere.
Put all fluids in the car at this point: oil, coolant, p/s fluid, brake fluid for the clutch
Before starting the engine up you need to prime the system. Disconnect the coil from the distributor cap, and crank the engine for 5-10 seconds five times. This primes the oil pump. Now, take the little screw from the top of the fuel filter out and crank the motor over again until only fuel comes out of the hole. Replace the screw. The fuel system is primed.
Make sure everything is connected and looks good. Now try to fire the engine up. It should turn over. If it doesn’t check the ECU fro codes and follow the trouble shooting guide to find the problem.
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Specific Parts needed for the swap


1. B20A5 engine
2. ECU for a B20A5 (OBD 0)
3. An Si Alternator the S alternator has a 3 pin connector whereas the Si has a 4 pin.
4. All the wiring from an Si
a. -Right Side Harness
b. -Left side Harness
c. -Main Engine Harness
d. -Entire interior Harness
5. Si charcoal canister
6. Fuel Pump, Si or after market with banjo bolts
7. Fuel filter
8. Return fuel line, I used metal line routed under the car 10 Ft. or metal line
9. High pressure fuel line to replace the original fuel lines, 10 Ft.
10. High pressure fuel line to go from the fuel inlet pipe to the fuel filter
11. Fuel line that runs from the Filter to the Fuel rail, with banjo fittings
12. Fuel injector resistor
13. Si Distributor, B20A5 or B21A1 distributors work, I recommend a new cap and rotor as well.
14. Igniter Unit
15. Vacuum Control Box, I recommend replacing all the old rubber hose inside and outside the box with new silicone hose.
16. PGM-FI Main relay, located under the dash. Its an important electrical part, so I recommend going to a dealer to get it. $50
17. atmospheric pressure sensor
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hmm.... let me show this to some people... probably end up in 3rd gen FAQ...
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what do you mean by high pressure lines to replace originals? If you are talking about the other two hard lines, they are the same exact lines as the ones on the Si. Also, won't the A3 block work for this swap too, making it just a head swap?
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hi, bluelude. seldom see you on this board. i saw your lude almost everyday. How's your swap?

i like this board, PO, much much more than SNI. too much flaming over there.
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yeah, i just finally got around to paying, the swap is going ok when i'm actually working on it. I just got all the reground valves and am going to try and seat them this week. That way at least the head will be back together. I guess i gotta find some cabin harnesses since this write up says you need the ones from the Si. For anyone who is not so sure about taking the risk of kinking the hard fuel line when bending it, I got one from honda with all the bends for only around 40 bucks. The Cecil, please contact me, I'd like to ask you a few questions about the swap since it appears you've already done it. I just cant really see it costing over 3k, unless you put a bunch of aftermarket stuff on it and got bad pricess on any services. Anyway, you can email me at imnoteddie2@hotmail.com , my aim s/n is lsubluelude, or you can PM me. later
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for the hardline, it was bent by hand very carefully. and yes you NEED the interior harness for this swap. i didint think i did, but i found out that is is absolutley necessary for the interior harness to be swapped. the S harness isint wired for the PGM-FI main relay and the main relay controlls the major functions of the car like the fuel pump, injectors, ECU

The B20A3 block is very similar on the outside and exactly the same internally. but it needs some extra parts for it to be a head swap. The water inlet pipe needs to be replaced for one off of an Si because of all the intake manifold cooling ports. also a oil cooler must be added to the block.
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can i just use an aftermarket oil cooler for the block? also do you think i could just snag a wire harness from a yard, or would it be too difficult to remove there? If you know anyone parting out a lude so that i can get the inlet pipe and some other misc things for the swap? thanks for all the help
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yes, you can just add an oil cooler its a peice that comes off the B20A5 block. it screws around the oil filter housing. the oil cooler i think you are thinking about is one that actually cools the oil, the one off the B20A5 is a housing that surrounds the filter housing and coolant runs through it. i'll send a pic to you if you want
As far as the interior wiring goes, yes you can get it from a junkyard, thats what i did. you have to pull the dash, and all the crap behind it to get to it. but its not too bad since you can break stuff in the junked car to get to the harness. you have a helm manual right? in the manual it shows how to remove the dash to get to the harness.
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i have chilton's but it is crap, i gotta find a helm somewhere. Very true about the breaking things in junk yards, hehehe
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yeah, you NEED a helm manual. its the bible for this swap.
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