3rd Gen-er's with V-tec Swaps: Have a question for you
How much did it all cost to do the swap. Including the engine, tranny and everything esle you need and install?? I just want to try to get a ball park figure so i know what to save. Thanks.
I don't think that nayone here has a FULL engine swap. But there has been head swap's doen and it is fairly expensive and it is a real pain in the A$$ least that is what I have been told.
Just go with a B20 and either Turbo or Head kit and NOS.
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Relocated Battery,Modified Civic Intake, 2.25 High Flow Cat,
2.25 Custom Cat back piping, RACtive tip,H&R sport springs,
and Tokico Blues.
Originally posted by RedRacerX Just go with a B20 and either Turbo or Head kit and NOS.
You always say that, and you do real good at making it sound simple.
As far as the total amt., you'd be looking at anywhere from 5-8 grand for the complete swap. Totally not worth it in my opinion, however, if you can succesfully pull it out, your car would be a beast.
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Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!
Originally posted by RedRacerX Just go with a B20 and either Turbo or Head kit and NOS.
Yeah its not that easy unless you plan on replacing your engine twice a year. You need to rebuild yor bottom end, and head to be able to handle NOS and turbo and thats just a vague discription of whats needed.
I think H22a swap is still the best thing to do since the VTEC head swap is not really a proven swap yet. Plus with a head swap in my eyes is pointless cause whats the point of having VTEC but not being able to go past stock B20 redline of 6800rpm due to the bad bore stroke ratio.
Originally posted by RedPassion Plus with a head swap in my eyes is pointless cause whats the point of having VTEC but not being able to go past stock B20 redline of 6800rpm due to the bad bore stroke ratio.
Very good point Passion!!
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Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!
I hear you can run <9 lbs. of boost and still get away with a stock bottom end.
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Originally posted by jag6984 you can probably get away with more than 9 psi but you'd need to tune it right and adjust the fuel mixture and get larger injectors.
Well, you might be able to go over 9 psi on a stock b20a block, but not for long. Tuning would help, but the motor itself just couldn't take that much pressure.
redloudlude, what kind of setup are you running?
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Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!
Yeah its not that easy unless you plan on replacing your engine twice a year. You need to rebuild yor bottom end, and head to be able to handle NOS and turbo and thats just a vague discription of whats needed.
I think H22a swap is still the best thing to do since the VTEC head swap is not really a proven swap yet. Plus with a head swap in my eyes is pointless cause whats the point of having VTEC but not being able to go past stock B20 redline of 6800rpm due to the bad bore stroke ratio.
as long as u have low miles on a motor u can run a 60 or 65 dry shot on the motor bone stock. it wont hurt it at all. but i wouldnt recommend it if u have over 100k on it. thats why im rebuilding my spare motor and putting a 65 dry shot on it.
Originally posted by whitelude4ws but i wouldnt recommend it if u have over 100k on it. thats why im rebuilding my spare motor and putting a 65 dry shot on it.
Mileage doesn't matter.
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Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!
Originally posted by Elementfwe Preyluder, mileage really doesnt matter at all? What are the precautions for nitrous?
As long as all your cylinders are running about the same compression levels, it's all good. Get some colder plugs, retard your timing a degree or two, and you're good to go.
89turbo, what's your setup? Where'd you get your mounts? Did you do the swap yourself?
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Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!
When I say that stuff i guess I assumed to much to think that the reader would come up with the built up engine on his or her own.
And as far as it being simple well between that and a Head swap simplicity is the name of the game.
Come on Josh you know what I meant why you gotta make me look like a Newb.
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Relocated Battery,Modified Civic Intake, 2.25 High Flow Cat,
2.25 Custom Cat back piping, RACtive tip,H&R sport springs,
and Tokico Blues.
Originally posted by RedRacerX Come on Josh you know what I meant why you gotta make me look like a Newb.
Sorry man, it's just that you always say "go w/ the head kit, then turbo or nos.... or both", and that is by NO MEANS easy. I don't even know how to put on a Turbo kit, although I bet I could figure it out. Sorry for making you feel dumb.
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Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!
well I was just saying that for the Head kit you take it off ship it hten put it back on. Pretty simple. NOS take it to a Mechanic. Turbo buy and then install yourself with some friends. The one that Tom has comes with EXCELLENT directions all of those prodjects are pretty much one day for each. Maybe longer for the NOS cause of all the hosing and stuff.
Compare that to the VTEC swap and DAMN.. Seems really easy
For that much money for the head swap you can get all of what is listed above and a really nice Paint job, Body Kit, Rims, Racing Seats, Stereo, and fully built bottom end. Plus some money left over for. hmmmm I vacations to the Bahamas.
that is of course if the swap is near th upper of the amount listed above. But when I was pricing it I was looking at about $4500-6500, so yeah I like the other alternatives better. Oh yeah and Tom never got his VTEC to work if you talk to him about it.
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Relocated Battery,Modified Civic Intake, 2.25 High Flow Cat,
2.25 Custom Cat back piping, RACtive tip,H&R sport springs,
and Tokico Blues.
Last edited by RedRacerX : 08-05-2002 at 09:43 AM.
Originally posted by RedRacerX well I was just saying that for the Head kit you take it off ship it hten put it back on. Pretty simple. NOS take it to a Mechanic. Turbo buy and then install yourself with some friends. The one that Tom has comes with EXCELLENT directions all of those prodjects are pretty much one day for each. Maybe longer for the NOS cause of all the hosing and stuff.
Do you know how to take your head off? It's easy, but it's not that easy. It takes time and good know-how. Installing nitrous is the easiest of the three you mentioned. If you know what you're doing, it can be a 4 hour install, which isn't bad at all.
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Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!
H22a adds weight but its not that much....as far as fun factor and quickness...its a must get in my opinion...thats only if you love you car as much as i do and plan on keeping it till the wheels fall off..lol.....As far as cost i stopped counting at about 8k.....But i've got a few extra goodies..so thats where most of the cost comes in at. click on the link below..to look at my beater/sleeper.
Well actually I have done head cylinder replace. Not on my car actually it was a 67' Mustang and that was Huge so I was guessing that it would be a little easier with a 4 banger. As for the NOS I have never doen that I was just guessing with all the hoses and such that it would be a real biatch.
No offense to anyone intended. And I am sorry if I make this sound too EASY. I am not trying to I am just saying that compared to the VTEC swap it is Cake.
And I personally have never seen the Gude kit in action BUT from hearsay it sounds nice. It all depends on luck and guts on droping the 1500 for the kit.
SOrry I did not know about the NOS. My bad
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91' 2.0Si
Relocated Battery,Modified Civic Intake, 2.25 High Flow Cat,
2.25 Custom Cat back piping, RACtive tip,H&R sport springs,
and Tokico Blues.
Seems really easy 
