So i'm trying to decide what motor to put in the prelude right now. Has an H23 in it but i'm not a fan of the H series blocks, and I've got quite a few options out there for an FI build. Anyhow here's what i'm thinking.
K Swap (pretty beefy, little more expensive for the setup, but worth it)
LS/V (The tried and true out here with pretty decent numbers being put down)
B20/GSR head (would require some extensive head work. friend runs this in his hatch, pulling 10's in the quarter with no bottle, only complaint is the vtec wants to keep going way after you run out of gear).
Can't really decide right now so what would you guys choose?
I was actually wanting to get a bit crazy and do a c35 swap out of a legend but dont want to tube the front half of the car.
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1991 Acura NSX - For Sale 1993 Honda Prelude Si - new project 1994 Acura Integra - track monkey
1. Kswap, how is it worth it if its so dang expensive? You could build a h series to more than a k series swap?
2. Any B series < h series because thats why civics are ditching b series for h series.
So basically you haven't thought this through have you? Other than the fact you want to be like 75% of the newbs out there who think it's just so easy to swap in other motors other than the h series into a prelude.
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"I am a ricer because I have Z3 fenders" Bless Her Heart ORG
if you are looking for POWER go with a h22 and turbo or s/c it. if you want somethign that is the same as your h23 but want to do the whole JDM thing get a F22b as it's the same motor as the h23 and is about 500 dollars...
I suggest strapping 40 or so bottle rockets to the trunk and ingiting them all at the same time. It would be hella cheaper and if you take out the H22 you would drastically increase your power to weight ratio. Maybe you could retro fit a continous track from a tank too, to give you that all terrain feel.
Wow, elitests galore here. I bought the prelude for one reason only, to have some fun with it. Do some swaps, learn a few things about the different 4 cyl series engines from honda that I really dont know much about. I know a ton about the 6 cyls, not much about the 4's never messed with them. I came here, asking around to get some opinions, assuming i'd get some honest, educated answers, instead I get a bunch of smart ass comments. Sure I'm a newb to this site, but I'm not a newb to the car scene.
As far as the "civic guys dumping b series for h series now" comments, I have yet to see one, and I race down here at our local track all the time, alot of 8-10 sec imports down here, and with the exception of the dsm crowd, the honda guys are running B series/LS-Vs, or K swaps. I have yet to even heard of anyone in this area running an H series in a built car. There are a few F series running around.
Either way, it's nice to see the welcome wagon come out. I'll be sure to keep all your "advice" in mind.
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1991 Acura NSX - For Sale 1993 Honda Prelude Si - new project 1994 Acura Integra - track monkey
Wow, elitests galore here. I bought the prelude for one reason only, to have some fun with it. Do some swaps, learn a few things about the different 4 cyl series engines from honda that I really dont know much about. I know a ton about the 6 cyls, not much about the 4's never messed with them. I came here, asking around to get some opinions, assuming i'd get some honest, educated answers, instead I get a bunch of smart ass comments. Sure I'm a newb to this site, but I'm not a newb to the car scene.
As far as the "civic guys dumping b series for h series now" comments, I have yet to see one, and I race down here at our local track all the time, alot of 8-10 sec imports down here, and with the exception of the dsm crowd, the honda guys are running B series/LS-Vs, or K swaps. I have yet to even heard of anyone in this area running an H series in a built car. There are a few F series running around.
Either way, it's nice to see the welcome wagon come out. I'll be sure to keep all your "advice" in mind.
I wish i still had the pics and vids to prove this but there are a lot of h-series motors in civics. a few buddies of mine have done it and i've been at quite a few tracks myself doing vids for a friend of mine. The reason you dont see THAT many h motors is that everyone likes the b-series tranny so much better because i guess its more reliable (i never really had any trouble with the tranny in my lude)
Its such a common swap that i believe it was torco that made an adapter for an h-series motor to a b-series tranny. I saw it at their booth at battle of the imports last year or so if i remember correctly.
As for your swap, i've always imagined a legend engine in mine but im not sure if its worth the hassle. just beef your h22 up again and take her out dancin.
The h22 makes more power with more torque than any other engine when it was first produced. It still "eclipsed" many other engines during it's production run.
For someone who has been in "the scene" for awhile, you would figure they would be somewhat in the know (especially since you are a honda guy). The only honda I have ever owned was a prelude and I still knew about LSvtecs and other swaps. I just thought it was common knowledge if you dug a bit.
Since you don't appreciate our bitterness towards this overly repeated and never executed subject, it's like wanting to put a h22 into a NSX for no apparent reason.
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"I am a ricer because I have Z3 fenders" Bless Her Heart ORG
I've been doing research and rethinking my build on my Prelude since December.
I've considered the K20... here's the primary problem is that there are currently no swap kits for it. Also, it adds $3000 from the start for a few HP and a six speed transmission. That's not to say it's now doable, it's just not suggested at the moment.
Personally, I'm going with a seriously rebuilt H22 with FI.
And if you spend the money and the time to do it right, you can get 700 HP + out of that motor. It's been done, and it's been stable.
So... really, research a lot more, and consider what will fit and what is decently supported out there. It's one thing to customize and engine with prefabbed parts, it's another to need to fabricate all your own.
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1988 Prelude S - victim of an 80mph backflip
1991 Prelude Si - sold
1989 Accord DX - impounded
1998 Prelude SH - totaled on 3/29/12
2006 CRF150F - sold
2006 YZ250F - sold
what would be really interesting would be an f20c...eh...
what about that one, fab a way for rwd in a prelude, near 50/50 weight distribution with a rwd honda engine. I'd wanna see that if i had the money
How about an AWD SH engine/tranny/drivetrain from an Acura?
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1988 Prelude S - victim of an 80mph backflip
1991 Prelude Si - sold
1989 Accord DX - impounded
1998 Prelude SH - totaled on 3/29/12
2006 CRF150F - sold
2006 YZ250F - sold
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