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Old 11-13-2002, 07:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No more searching for a write up on clearing 4th Gen rear turn signals. Here is is.

...Wide Mouth Lude posting...
I have completed my write up on this topic complete with pictures. I have just submitted it to ntpog.org and it will probably be up there in a few days. But if you really wanna see this now you can read it here: Write up for clearing 4th Gen rear turn signals

Lemme know what you think.
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Old 11-13-2002, 11:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good work Mike, but slo mo = Kevin
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Old 11-13-2002, 11:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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good job baby.... i'm VERY impressed!!!
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Old 11-13-2002, 01:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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saved. but the pic can be bigger. but it good, i know a buddy who lookin to do it, but i have done it so yea i can do it again. w000t
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saved. but the pic can be bigger. but it good, i know a buddy who lookin to do it, but i have done it so yea i can do it again. w000t
which pics? all of them are clickable to become larger...
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Good work Mike, but slo mo = Kevin
oh sorry dude, i confused the names.....ill change it tonight. Sorry bout that.
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Old 11-13-2002, 03:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Nice write-up... I was too scared to do it to my stock lights, so I bought a set already cleared from member Phatfarm.
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good stuff. Thanks Can someone FAQ this please.
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i'll make it in a form to FAQ right now....
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Re-written by: Michael Garofolo (a.k.a. Wide Mouth Lude)(File Created November 12, 2002)
Original Author of Procedure: Honda Prelude Member Audex (real name unknown)
Special Thanks to:
Kevin Warkentin (a.k.a. djcttb) for posting the original instructions on PO.com. Since I decided to take this project on after HP.com closed, Audex's write up was gone too. If it weren’t for Kevin's post, this write-up would have died.

This write-up will tell you how to make it look like this:

http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri.../after4way.jpg

Suggestion: Purchase a set of taillights from a junkyard and use them as a practice set.

Tools/Materials Needed:
· Phillips Screwdriver
· Flat head screwdriver (as thin as possible)
· Panel Popper (flat head screwdriver can be substituted but it is not recommended as it can cause damage.)
· Wrench (I believe a 10mm…I used "Robo grip" as well as the wrench)
· Heat gun (if you don't have one, u can substitute a hairdryer, the hotter the better. It will get the job done, but it will take longer.)
· some small nails
· Light Diffuser material (I used the cover of a fluorescent light. You know, the kind they install in suspended ceilings.)
· Dremal with sanding bit and a cutting bit
· Circular Saw (dremal can be substituted for cutting diffuser but it tends to crack it)
· Flat File (obviously not a nail file) OR Sand paper OR circular sander (or all three if u have them)
· Silicon caulking
· Small weights
· A Sharpie (those thin magic markers with the pointed tip)
· Exacto knife
· Lots and lots of patience (this may take you a couple of days if you want to do a good job)

Step 1
Read this write up all the way through BEFORE starting. Don't assume you know what to do. I made this mistake and when I got stuck, I read through the original write up and found something I needed to do.

Step 2
Ok, First we have to remove the taillight from the car. Go in through your trunk and open the panel in the trunk lining for the taillight and you should see this:
(Pictures are of left taillight)
http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...aillightin.jpg

Disconnect the wiring harness.
Remove the screws labeled in green.
Remove the white piece. CAUTION: The three bulbs are attached to this so be careful not to break them.
Using the wrench, remove the nuts labeled in red. The screws at the bottom have orange pieces that clip to a wire bundle, which secures it. Use the panel popper to pop off the orange pieces to remove the screws.
It should now look like this:
http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...lbsremoved.jpg

Step 3
Now come to the visible half of your taillight and pull it out a little ways to create a gap.
Put a little muscle into it because there are snaps holding it into the body.
You can see where the snaps are in this picture.

http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...ails/clips.jpg

There are also one or two at the bottom.
Once you have created a small gap, take your panel popper and wrap it in thin cloth (so it doesn't scratch the paint) and pry off the taillight.
This should be easy, but be careful not to let the taillight fall, it WILL crack.
Now that you have the tail light housing removed get yourself a comfy chair at a workbench of some sort (I used the kitchen table covered with newspaper).

Step 4
Set your taillight on the table along with your nails, heat gun/hair dryer and flat head. Start heating the bottom edge of the taillight (shown in the picture).
http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...bottomedge.jpg

This heats the epoxy holding it together and allows you to pull it apart.
Do not hold the heat in one place for more than 8 seconds or it will melt the black housing and/or the red shell.
The method that worked best for me was a slow sweeping motion over the whole side.
There are some caveats to this step. In the picture above, I have labeled places (in green) were the red shell kind of clips into the black housing which prevents them from separating.
I used the flat head to raise the black housing up after heating up the side and I placed straightened paper clips in the gap. (See picture below)
http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...lipinlight.jpg

Step 5
Now work on this side. (Green arrow)
http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...s/facedown.jpg

Again we have the problem with the clips but they aren't as hard to deal with as you have some more flexibility because one side is separated already.
So heat this side up and pry it apart as well.
You can use the screwdriver on this side as well.
Again, place nails in the gaps to keep it separated.
(While you do this, nails may fall out of the bottom. Don't worry because by this time the epoxy in that section has already cooled and it will stay.)
Now start heating up the last edge.
DO NOT use the screwdriver on this side because if you crack the red housing, everyone will see.
Suck it up and pull that sucker apart with your bare hands.

Step 6
Now take a short break. By now your arms should be a bit tired, maybe your fingers hurt (I know mine did). The hard part is over.

Step 7
Now take the black housing and flip it over into this position.

http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...opposition.jpg

Using the handle of the screwdriver, pop out the white/amber lens from the back of the assembly.
Don't be afraid to use some force, it doesn't crack easily.
If you do crack it, however, you will have trouble making a new light diffuser.

Step 8
Once you have the lens out, lay it on top of the new diffuser material and push down on it to flatten it out.
Then trace its outline with the marker. (You don't have to trace around the little pieces that jut out of the sides. You'll see what I mean)
Get the line as close as possible to the edge of the lens.
The closer the better fit your new diffuser will have.
(Picture for this step coming soon.)

Step 9
Now take your diffuser material to the circular saw (or take your dermal).
Note: This creates a lot of plastic shavings, so don't do it in the house.
If you are using the circular saw, you can easily make the straight cuts.
Try to leave a little extra with the marker still on it and be careful not to cut anything inside the outline because it will leave a gap in the taillight.
If you don't have the saw, use the dremal's cutting bit to achieve the same results as described with the circular saw.
Now that you have all your straight cuts, use the dermal cutting bit to cut around the corners.
Again, try to leave a little bit of marker on there. (Picture for this step coming soon.)

Optional Step
This gives your custom taillight an even better look. Use your Phillips screwdriver to remove the metal reflectors in the turn signal and reverse light.
Now use the cutting bit of the dermal to remove the black housing that divides the two lights.
Remove enough so that when you re-install the reflectors, you can bend the adjacent flaps flat.
Doing so allows the light from either bulb to illuminate the entire lens instead of just a section.
It also eliminates the slight appearance of a sectioned lens (noticeable only up close) that will still exist if you do not do this.
This gives your custom look an even more custom appearance but it is not necessary to make an awesome looking taillight. (Picture for this step coming soon.)

Step 10
Once you have the basic shape cut out, use the file/sandpaper/circular sander to shave away to excess.
The circular sander works the quickest.
While doing this, make sure you hold the material as close to the area you are sanding to prevent it from cracking.
Also take your time. Patience will pay off big time here.
Make sure the edges are even and smooth, and that there is no more marker left on the material. (Picture for this step coming soon.)

Step 11
Now since I forgot to take the picture of the light with it taken apart, use your imagination here.
I have outlined in green a black housing for the turn signal/reverse light lens.
http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...grnoutline.jpg

Place your taillight on the table with that part facing up.
See if your new lens fits. If it does, GREAT. If it’s too big, try sanding in the spots that keep it from fitting. If it’s too small, try again.
When you have a lens that fits, take your silicon and apply it around the edge of the new lens you made.
Place it into its spot and puts some weights on top of it so it adheres to the curved surface. (Picture for this step coming soon.)


Step 12
While you are waiting for this to dry, take the red shell and clean off the excess epoxy by heating it and scraping it off with the exacto knife.
You can see all the excess I got here (the epoxy is the gray stuff):
http://www.lasalle.edu/~garofom1/wri...separation.jpg

once the lens is done drying, do the same to the black housing.
DO NOT remove all of the epoxy. You need some to hold the taillight together.
Keep some of this extra epoxy around because you may need it later.
If you do not perform this step, putting the taillight back together will be difficult.

Step 13
Now put the two halves together heating up the epoxy as you go until it looks the way it did before you started.
Now there are going to be some gaps where those little red clips are.
Take some of the extra epoxy, heat it up and stick it over top of them to seal the taillight.
This prevents moisture from getting in and making for a foggy taillight.
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Old 01-08-2003, 02:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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this still wasn't FAQed yet, can someone do that please?
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Great. Thanks widemouth, I'm gonna get right on this project!!
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welcome to all....hey moderators...FAQ this thing.
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you still have my name wrong.

slo mo = Kevin Warkentin
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