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Old 12-21-2001, 12:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why won't Mugen Headers fit on a 4th gen?

I mean its basically the same thing, same engine, I am in dropping in a JDM H22A, I am almost done pulling out my H23 BUT i need an engine hoist, anyways why won't they fit if they are the same engines?? I am not talking about the Type SH i mean shouldn't Mugen Headers for a 5th gen base fit on a 4th gen VTEC??? Whats the difference?

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if I remember the exhaust ports are spaced diff..that's why they won't match up
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Old 12-21-2001, 03:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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if I remember the exhaust ports are spaced diff..that's why they won't match up
hmmm how is that tho?? If all H22A's are the same??? like DC sports says H22 or H23 not 92-96 or 97-00... ya know i wanna see if it fits...

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Old 12-21-2001, 04:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the A-pipe is a different length, and if I'm not mistaken has a different flange that bolts up to the cat. If you are doing a custom exhaust, any header from any H22A, H22A1, or H22A4 will bolt up fine.
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Old 12-21-2001, 05:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the A-pipe is a different length, and if I'm not mistaken has a different flange that bolts up to the cat. If you are doing a custom exhaust, any header from any H22A, H22A1, or H22A4 will bolt up fine.
thats not the problem, this guy around my way is selling Mugen Headers for a Base Prelude for $500, and I have Greddy Headers in a box Brand new awaiting the completion of my engine swap, I wanna know if they fit so I can sell my Greddy Headers and go fo Mugen... I don't get the how its different for the H22A1 and H22A4.... if they sell headers for 93+ Prelude VTEC's except SH models...

Shouldn't that mean they fit?

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Old 12-21-2001, 08:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just keep the Greddy header. I have dyno tested both, and the results are quite similar with the greddy making about 2.7hp more at peak. You can call up Kingmotorsports, and they can get you a Mugen Header for a 4th gen. That's where I bought mine. It was about 950 bucks. I currently have the Greddy on the car, and sold the Mugen about 8 months ago. Greddy all the way.
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what about for an Si Prelude James? Have you seen any dyno runs with different types of headers?
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Old 12-22-2001, 09:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Just keep the Greddy header. I have dyno tested both, and the results are quite similar with the greddy making about 2.7hp more at peak. You can call up Kingmotorsports, and they can get you a Mugen Header for a 4th gen. That's where I bought mine. It was about 950 bucks. I currently have the Greddy on the car, and sold the Mugen about 8 months ago. Greddy all the way.

oo ok kewl man, thanx for that little bit of info... Greddy all the way it is

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Old 12-23-2001, 10:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The header will fit on a 4th gen but you need to do a completely new exhaust from the header back.
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The header will fit on a 4th gen but you need to do a completely new exhaust from the header back.
So Mugen headers for a Base Prelude will fit tho right?

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No prob Bob, I mean Jose!
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I have done some testing on the H23 as well. And believe it or not most of the headers I tested for it performed about the same. There wasn't really one header that outshined the rest. For the money, DC ceramic is a great choice. Just use a tap and clean the threads out on the O2 sensor bung.
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....bung.
(Butt-head voice) huh huh huh huh huh huh you said BUNG...

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(Butt-head voice) huh huh huh huh huh huh you said BUNG...

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HEEEEHHHEEEEEEHHEEEE Yeah Yeah he said bung!
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I have done some testing on the H23 as well. And believe it or not most of the headers I tested for it performed about the same. There wasn't really one header that outshined the rest. For the money, DC ceramic is a great choice. Just use a tap and clean the threads out on the O2 sensor bung.
Thanks James, while I've got the header off, I'm going to put a new O2 sensor in there. I figure I'll have a difficult time taking the old one out anyway, plus I think mine may not be working correctly...
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