Whats best after i/h/e - Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com
Honda Prelude Forum Honda Prelude Forum Header Right
» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Go Back   Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fourth Gen Prelude Discussion
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Mark Forums Read Advertise

PreludeOnline.com is the premier Honda Prelude Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-30-2003, 01:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
Supporting Member
I'm a GIRL!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Overland Park, KS
Posts: 754
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Whats best after i/h/e

I've heard pulleys are a good source of power, but I've also heard that they can be more harm than good in the long run. I haven't searched much on cam gears, but have gathered that skunk 2 is the best.

So which mod would be the best after i/h/e and untuned VAFC? Also, could you tell me a little about pulleys and cam gears? TIA

Theresa
"T"
__________________
.:.Theresa.:.

2003 Suzuki GSXR 600 Alstare SOLD 08/14/05
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 V8 with ALL the goodies
1994 Prelude VTEC SOLD 12/21/04
CrazieLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-30-2003, 01:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 3,285
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Pulleys can be a good choice, but I may be biased since I'm working on designing some right now
__________________
-Jeremy | Forbidden Motorsports

Yes....I'm back on PO!
4bidden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 07:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
PO.com veteran
 
U.K VTEC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: London, England
Posts: 3,124
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: Whats best after i/h/e

Quote:
Originally posted by CrazieLude
....untuned VAFC....

I think you've already answered your own question.

__________________
Garry

U.K VTEC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 11:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
Supporting Member
I'm a GIRL!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Overland Park, KS
Posts: 754
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
well i plan to do that. come on anyone else? thanks

T
__________________
.:.Theresa.:.

2003 Suzuki GSXR 600 Alstare SOLD 08/14/05
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 V8 with ALL the goodies
1994 Prelude VTEC SOLD 12/21/04
CrazieLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 01:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: East Los Angeles, California
Posts: 282
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
In fact, I've recently done I/H/E mod too and am wondering what's next. I'd like to install a S-AFC II ('92 Si), but the local shope quoted $350 for AFC, $100 for installation and $175/hr. for the dyno tuning, so I thought it would be quite expensive.

Did you install VAFC yourself? If not, how much did it cost for installation? Where (in the car) was it installed?
__________________
'92 Si, Milano Red, >200K miles (Original front brakes)
AEM CAI, DC Headers, Greddy SP Cat-back Exhaust, MSD 8.5 mm Spark Wires, 4bidden Short Shifter, Neuspeed FSTB
17" ADR Skye7 Wheels, 215/40/17 Ventus H II Tires
Pioneer DEH-1500 Head Unit, Kicker 10" Subwoofer, Sony DCX-4120 Amplifier

---------------------------------------
'03 Honda Pilot EX-L, Silver
'03 Acura 3.2 TL Type S, Silver

Last edited by PatrickC1026; 09-30-2003 at 02:57 PM.
PatrickC1026 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 02:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
Supporting Member
The one and only.
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,244
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Pullies! Just the accessory pullies though, they do no harm to anything, as long as you can live with slightly dimmer headlights. The crank pulley is the one that is rumored to cause engine problems.
__________________
Gone, but not forgotten...rest in peace Jon.
cantdrive55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 03:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: East Los Angeles, California
Posts: 282
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by cantdrive55
Pullies! Just the accessory pullies though, they do no harm to anything, as long as you can live with slightly dimmer headlights. The crank pulley is the one that is rumored to cause engine problems.
Were you referring to underdrive pullies when you said "accessory pullies"? What's the advantage of those pullies? Any gains (average)?
__________________
'92 Si, Milano Red, >200K miles (Original front brakes)
AEM CAI, DC Headers, Greddy SP Cat-back Exhaust, MSD 8.5 mm Spark Wires, 4bidden Short Shifter, Neuspeed FSTB
17" ADR Skye7 Wheels, 215/40/17 Ventus H II Tires
Pioneer DEH-1500 Head Unit, Kicker 10" Subwoofer, Sony DCX-4120 Amplifier

---------------------------------------
'03 Honda Pilot EX-L, Silver
'03 Acura 3.2 TL Type S, Silver
PatrickC1026 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 04:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: So. Cal.
Posts: 429
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
yea, get pullies that's my next mod. just get the aem tru pulleys and you'll be fine.
__________________
1997 nordic mist base prelude - TOTALED (rear ended)

AIM: DEFCONjames
email: james@d3-innovations.com
DEFCONShupaLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 04:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
Supporting Member
I'm a GIRL!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Overland Park, KS
Posts: 754
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i installed my vafc myself. and I HATE wires! It wasnt hard. You can buy a used one for like 250 or so. I hear pulleys mess up something in the engine bearings or something...sorry if i sound stupid, but i dont remember.

T
__________________
.:.Theresa.:.

2003 Suzuki GSXR 600 Alstare SOLD 08/14/05
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 V8 with ALL the goodies
1994 Prelude VTEC SOLD 12/21/04
CrazieLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 04:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Madison, Wi
Posts: 910
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
with i/h/e youve pretty much maxed out the potential of your motor... You might get a few more hp with pullies, but probably not worth it. You should look into doing some major work like cams.
__________________
2.233 60'!, 15.533 at 88.96mph?
I/H/E Konis/Neuspeed Race
.."the Prelude is the best Integra ever made......." - Car & Driver, 1999
Brady92/4WS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 07:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
bsi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: escondido,CA
Posts: 927
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by CrazieLude
i installed my vafc myself. and I HATE wires! It wasnt hard. You can buy a used one for like 250 or so. I hear pulleys mess up something in the engine bearings or something...sorry if i sound stupid, but i dont remember.

T
'
that is referring to the crank pulley though.. which is why 4bidden said to just get the accessory pullies
__________________
bsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 09:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
Supporting Member
I'm a GIRL!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Overland Park, KS
Posts: 754
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
ahh ok, how much of a hp gain should i look for w/ accessory pullies? are skunk 2 cam gears worth it?

T
__________________
.:.Theresa.:.

2003 Suzuki GSXR 600 Alstare SOLD 08/14/05
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 V8 with ALL the goodies
1994 Prelude VTEC SOLD 12/21/04
CrazieLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
ANGER IS A GIFT!
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 3,963
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
after I/H/E install I always drink a couple to mark my accomplishment
__________________

QWITCHERBICHEN
MR.CLIFFORD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2003, 11:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
Supporting Member
I'm a GIRL!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Overland Park, KS
Posts: 754
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
you freak! lol

T
__________________
.:.Theresa.:.

2003 Suzuki GSXR 600 Alstare SOLD 08/14/05
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 V8 with ALL the goodies
1994 Prelude VTEC SOLD 12/21/04
CrazieLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2003, 02:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
Supporting Member
The one and only.
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,244
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It would appear no one can read in this thread.
__________________
Gone, but not forgotten...rest in peace Jon.
cantdrive55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2003, 02:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
Supporting Member
The one and only.
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,244
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by PatrickC1026

Were you referring to underdrive pullies when you said "accessory pullies"? What's the advantage of those pullies? Any gains (average)?
To answer your question, since this was the only legitimate post in the second half of the thread, by accessory pullies, yes, I was referring to the power steering and alternator pullies. They're also called underdrive pullies. As the name says, they underdrive the alternator and the p/s. Less revolutions, means less power spent turning them, and they're supposedly lighter than stock, also making them easier to turn. From what I've heard, the underdrive accessory pullies free up around 4HP and about the same amount of torque.
__________________
Gone, but not forgotten...rest in peace Jon.
cantdrive55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2003, 01:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
Supporting Member
SLOLUDE IN AZ
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 182
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have read up to 9HP gain from AEM Pulleys. Guess it depends on the setup.
__________________
-Nick- 5G OG
1998 WDP Prelude - Psshhh....Slolude v2.0!
Sir_Nick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2003, 01:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
Supporting Member
The one and only.
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,244
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by Sir_Nick
I have read up to 9HP gain from AEM Pulleys. Guess it depends on the setup.
Did you read that on the AEM website? I find 9hp a bit hard to believe, even if they are referring to flywheel HP. Dr. James dyno'd the pullied IIRC, and they gained about 4whp across the board.
__________________
Gone, but not forgotten...rest in peace Jon.
cantdrive55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2003, 01:44 AM   #19 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Mid Wales, UK
Posts: 670
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
4whp isn't to be sniffed at though.

Didn't the Dr. have a book out or something?
__________________
Dave
AIM - ds2RX8

ds2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2003, 08:39 AM   #20 (permalink)
Supporting Member
Loneliness ownz me...
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: St.Louis,Misery
Posts: 6,213
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
For the price of the pulley set, 4whp isn't bad at all.
__________________
Josh's '92 Milano Si (5spd)- The mod list is growing!!

www.stlpreludeclub.com
Preyluder is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fourth Gen Prelude Discussion


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:10 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2