what PS hoses to use on JDM swap? - Honda Prelude Forum

red92s · 12-05-2002, 10:03 PM

Will the f22 power steering lines clear the head on the JDM h22 engine? It seems like you could skip having to refill and bleed the system by removing the Vehicle speed sensor (ala' the Helms) and not disconnecting the f22 lines from the pump when removing the old engine. I suppse if the f22 hose wont clear the head, then its necessary to use the h22 hose, which will require a re-bleed. Only reason I ask is 'cause Honda PS fluid aint exactly cheap. . .

PreludeRacer023 · 12-05-2002, 10:08 PM

blah, you dont even need PS...i took mine off, and have loved it ever since, its erally not even hard to park as long as you have good air pressure in your tires, and its much much more responsive while driving......but....if you must keep it, i dont think it will clear, my H23 line wouldnt clear...thats all i can help ya with.

Satan_SRV · 12-05-2002, 10:51 PM

Well when we swapped H22a's we took out the VSS ala the Helms and saved having to do the bleed.

Just be careful, don't break the VSS.

red92s · 12-05-2002, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Satan_SRV
Well when we swapped H22a's we took out the VSS ala the Helms and saved having to do the bleed.

Just be careful, don't break the VSS.

Were these h22's going into h23/f22 equipped cars? Did the PS pump lines clear the head?

Satan_SRV · 12-05-2002, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by red92s

Were these h22's going into h23/f22 equipped cars? Did the PS pump lines clear the head?

No these were straight VTEC swaps.... Kevie88 would know. Isn't it in his write-up in the FAQ?

red92s · 12-06-2002, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by Satan_SRV

No these were straight VTEC swaps.... Kevie88 would know. Isn't it in his write-up in the FAQ?

I dun think Kevin ever did a write up. There was something about the PS hoses in forbidden's write up, but his motor was from a 5th gen. . .I didn't know if there was a difference.

otime12 · 12-06-2002, 07:57 AM

u will have no problems all parts are interchangeable just swap out the whole ps pump and use the jdm one. thats what i did

Forbidden · 12-06-2002, 09:19 AM

When I did my swap the H23 hose wouldn't clear the VTEC head if I was to use the H22 PS pump but the connector was different to so it wasn't an option so we swap the H23 pump and bracket. Also I don't think you need to bleed the PS system, you just put fluid in it to the top line, turn the car on, turn the steering lock to lock a few time and fill up to the top line again

[SUB[EX] · 12-06-2002, 07:33 PM

noooo, i did mine and it cleared it fine. 92S to Jdm h22a. There were no problems everything fit. And whats with the VSS? Just remove it so you dont have to bleed the lines. No biggie. Ill be removing mine tommorow. I did a write up but i dont think it got Faq'd. Let me see if i can find it.

red92s · 12-07-2002, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by [SUB[EX]
noooo, i did mine and it cleared it fine. 92S to Jdm h22a. There were no problems everything fit. And whats with the VSS? Just remove it so you dont have to bleed the lines.

Yeah, thats what the Helms says to do. I just didn't want to remove the VSS, and then have to rebleed the system anyway because I had to use the H22 pump line. I guess I'll just use the f22 lines and remove the VSS, and then try the h22 one if that dosn't work

Absolut · 12-07-2002, 08:28 AM

93si -> jdm h22

I used my orignal pump and lines, I just removed the pump from the motor and laid it over the fender while I swapped the engine.
Same thing with the AC, dont undue the lines.

If you want to use your USDM accessories, you will need to swap over your USDM crankpulley, otherwise the belt *might* not line up.
USDM = 4 grooves in the pulley, JDM = 5. The JDM is wider so you shouldnt have a problem, you would just have a lil extra room on the pulley that the belt didnt cover, but I swapped my US pulley over from the Si motor just to be safe.
Crankpulley bolt = 19mm on the JDM.

red92s · 12-07-2002, 09:50 AM

I'm not gonna bother with the crank pulley right now, just don't have the tools or manpower to break it loose. Can I just take the pullies off of the JDM accessories and put them on the USDM accessories? Then everything would have the same number of grooves, and using the JDM belts wouldnt be a problem. Are the wider (JDM) belts easily available at parts stores and such, or are they harder to find?

[SUB[EX] · 12-07-2002, 10:51 AM

I just used the JDM Crank Pulley due to the fact that i keep spining Rod Bearings and didnt want to mess with the bottom end. The PS pullies are the same, you can use either belt. As for the AC and ALt the grooves are different as Absolut said. So just use your USDM Belt and it will be fine. If it has a Problem just replace the belt later. Its not that important. You can use the JDM pullies on the accesories if you want, but then you will need to use JDM belts.

otime12 · 12-07-2002, 04:55 PM

USE THE JDM CRANK PULLEY AND CHANGE OVER THE A/C PULLEY USE THE ACCESSORIES THAT CAME WITH THE JDM ENGINE THAT IS ALL EVERYHING ELSE WILL BOLT UP EASY AS PIE

[SUB[EX] · 12-07-2002, 06:37 PM

Well your forgetting one thing. Not everyone gets accesories with there engine. I had NO choice but to use mine. It was perfect tho.

red92s · 12-07-2002, 11:05 PM

The AC pulley looks kinda tough to remove (?)

otime12 · 12-08-2002, 06:39 AM

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The AC pulley looks kinda tough to remove (?)

easy u just need a gear puller and there are one or two C locks u have to take out. i wouldnt recommend disconnecting your a/c so this is what ur gonna have to do

[SUB[EX] · 12-08-2002, 11:04 AM

Just remember that its only off by one rib on the crank pulley. So it will sit perfectly on the accessories and just have a little extra space on the crank pulley. Mine is fine.

BUT when i was working on removing my tranny i noticed somthing. My power steering belt is Upside Down. WTF, i dont know how that happened. SOmehow it shifted during driving. ***.