kronicus

so from before with the stock cams the tranasion into v-tech was like OMFG but towards the last days before the motor went down it didnt seem to hit as hard......
now i have the skunk 2 pro stage 1 cams and i do understand that because there is so much more power packed into the non v-tech areas the tranasition into v-tech wont "pop" as hard but you still should feel more power emerge........heres the thing
while its climbing towards v-tech the air-fuel mixture via the wide band is pretty dam good stays close to 14.7-1 but bounces around.....
once the engine reaches 5600+ the car starts to run rich, between 11.4-1 to low 13's-1 so its dumping more fuel in then it can pull air which tells me a few things

1 it either is not pushing enough oil pressure through to life the v-tech lobes against the hefty skunk 2 springs far enough thus opening the valves to there max potential.....
2 the solenoid is not opening far enough to flow enough oil achiving he above problem
3 there is no volatge present going to the solenoid.........
there are 0 current ecu codes and i have verified the conection from the ecu to the solenoid is pristine has conuinity and does not have excessive resistance

on the tech side the car has a brand new oil pump from top line* and has the kaizen speed balancer shaft eliminator kit on it and thats about all i can think of as far as oil delivery goes, when i poped of the v-tek sol. the screen is not clogged and all areas have oil in them.....

all i can think of is maybe the shop that filled the car engine with oil put a very light or to heavy of a weight and i need to put a different weight......so im looking for sugestions....

also will the car go into v-tek when its not moving, if so i can throw up the e-brake and test the solenoid for a voltage amount and pull pretty easily...
if not i can rig up a meter to the solenoid and run it into the cabin and go drive the car and see if power emerges.......

im open to other suggestions like runing a fused hot link to the solenoid and activate it via a switch in the cab and see how hard the transition is and compare that to oem operation
is there a way to ohm out the solenoid?

BBYlude

it's spelled "VTEC"

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Tee-Dot

So you're saying that VTEC just isn't kicking in yo?

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petern101

How about you just go get it dyno tuned or even dynoed to confirm your suspicions?

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Tee-Dot

^Are you doubting his butt dyno?

Maybe there's something stuck in it that could be skewing his readings.

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kronicus

although my but dyno is always fully calibrated, its not hard to tell when a car is not working right and feel out flat spots, and understand on a wide band whats happening and seeing adverse and almost useless adjustents because it simply wont behave "like it did before"

i have someone working on writing me a crome program on a p-28 tomorow its going to be kind of a blind tune but i plan on data loging anyway..so i can crank it around later or get on a dyno....the guy has done alot of H programing and is doing K's daily weel see what happens

dakyone

not everyone has a dyno shop around the corner. Id love to see whats going to my wheels, but I dont think there is a dyno south of SF for me. Maybe san jose has got one...

What does it usually cost for a dyno test/tune?

SNsLude

vtec is spelled 3 different ways in this thread

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petern101

California probably has the highest amount of dyno's out of any other state.

I highly doubt you can't find a place to do it. Even some dealerships will be able to give you some reading.

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jsmooney

change your oil if you think it's the oil. relatively cheap. if your A/F ratio is off, that could cause a problem at WOT. Take it to a dyno, get them to run it. It costs under $100. Easiest way to figure out your problem.

kronicus

ve-tech "thats 4" is nothing more than a constantly ready supply of oil under immense pressure, that is released via a eletronic solenoid and runs to the followers lifting the v-tech lobe
my system runs to rich in v-tech and almost perfect "now" everywhere else
what else is left.....actual pressure reaching the v-tehk "thats 5" lobes and there ability to depress skunk 2 springs down completly "remember oil pressure is all that presses them down"
the oil in my system is 10-30 minerial for the breakin as my shop guy said but still "i hate to say it" i ran the car luke warm when oil pressure is still higher" and it behaves the same....

however all this **** aside i got a guy that is going to program the p-28 chipped ecu i have in my hands on a dyno for $450 that includes cam gear tuning so....well se what happens........hopefully get it done by the weekend i need to present the ecu to him to make shure its all legit this evening
theres so much power being held back by the uber pathetic stock maps this car is going to explode out mad horse power(s)

braging rights can begin im hoping to se at LEAST 220 on the pavement

Tee-Dot

vtak

So you're going to be releasing all this horsepower with a tuned ecu? What other mods do you have?

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rpwolf

vtec pops...
+1 for mod list

spin_r_g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbQB9havIEM

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Tee-Dot

^That kinda looks like DeyAinRdy4ds.

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kronicus

full mod list goes....
type s 11-1 pistions "coated as well" bored .20 over
eagle h beam rods
all bottom end on toga bearings
nippion gas treated hi comp hi temp rings
kaizen speed FULL balancer shaft eliminator kit
skunk 2 pro stage 1 cams and adjustable cam gears
skunk 2 valve springs, retainers, hi comp flat top valves
3 angle valve job, also some work done to the valve collers (exhaust side)
valve guides by jun
head and block re-surfaced, vated and leaked down
FULL ralco rz underdrive pulley kit @ about 30% underdriven
fidanza 8lb flywhele on a act stage 2 clutch (6puck) and a crazy ass presure plate
overall the reduced rotating weight (not static weight ROTATING weight) may be the strongest single mod,
the balancer shafts, drive componets belt, and tensioner is a hefty amount of weight maybe 15lbs or more, eliminated and it increases oil psi
compare the stock what is it 22lb flywhele to the 8 lb fidanza
the stock crank pulley weights again maybe 15lbs my underdrive crank pulley weights in at 2 n a half lbs also PS ALT pulleys
dc 4-2-1 header (heat wraped to the cat) to a full custom 2.25 exhaust on a cat that calls for being on a supra, flowtech raptor muffler (i dont do can's)
full leingth cai, aem fuel rail and adjustable fuel pressure regulator
h22->h23 manual tensioner converion
new water pump, oil pump, and of course full yonaka gasket set top to bottom but....a permacool intake manafold gasket
water plumbing to throttle body bypassed
zeroed out map sensor
aem full wideband (ran independent, or basicly has its own tap into the exhaust)
jcwhitney oil filter heatsink
will all soon be runing on pure amsoil after its fully broke in
timing currently advanced 2 degrees (to elevation)
zero play distributor mod
160 thermostat whole system soon be ran on hyperlube and distilled water

and thats about all i can think of if i had the car in front of me i could spit out more but ya thats the meat and potatos of course not all mentioned mods add hp but they all help.....
the pistions, cams and unbeliveable amount of reduced weight will be the hardest hitters
theres other to like the body kit energy suspension lowering kit jdm 1 piece headlights shaved everything

and soon a full chiped p-28 dyno tuned and i dont even know what program hes going to use but he says its above hondata, crome, etc etc

also TEE-DOT did u see the you-tube-streetfire viedo of the migs ricer with the custom cow paint job and jack daniels 100 proof injection with the
"""(((v-tak (((Variable Transistor Acumulator Kanetizier))))) written with a crayon on dudes valve cover.......funny ****

lilbill97

thats a nice mods list and you dont even know how to spell vtec.lol

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Tee-Dot

link?

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kronicus

look ve-tech is vtek
i mean your power out put is not measured by the amount of tek you pop
but by what drivers your vteck beaneath the cams pistions ect ect
so the next time you pop into v-tehk remember that

kronicus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXpFt4_Eawk
rofl blower switch mini nos bottles rofl youl enjoy it