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Old 07-11-2003, 04:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Update On H23 Cams

I spoke with David Crower and he told me to send a fax to Brian Crower at (619) 422-9067 concerning the interest in billet cams for the H23. I am going to send a fax on Monday, and I would recommend everyone else do the same.

David also said that they are still in the process of testing for the next three months at least.
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Old 07-11-2003, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How about have everyone who is interested (ie all of us with H23s) add our name to a list on your fax?
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Old 07-11-2003, 06:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Start a thread that everyone can put thier name on, like one of those email petition/chain mail things you used to get back in HS. eg:

1) Ryu Ohtsuka, 92 Prelude Si

or something like that, then you can print it and fax it.
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I'd like to see them come out with some just so the H23 guys can enjoy a hard pulling top end like the H22 guys.

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I'd like to see them come out with some just so the H23 guys can enjoy a hard pulling top end like the H22 guys.

Hmm...I pull 5th gens in 3rd gear.

I just want MORE power.
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id be interested
OHHHH yeaaahhhh.....

Ryan, what about the other 4 gears? I'm not pokin fun, I'd just like to know. I've never raced a 5th gen in my car.
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I'd be very interested.
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OHHHH yeaaahhhh.....

Ryan, what about the other 4 gears? I'm not pokin fun, I'd just like to know. I've never raced a 5th gen in my car.
Dunno about 4th and 5th, but 1-3 yeah. Everyone with 5th gens all say 3rd gear is their strong gear though...
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it's a whole 'nother story after 3rd my friend. H22's have top end like whoa on our H23's... sorry to say. They just kinda die out up top. You'll get pulled on by a 22 in 4th and 5th. I also can beat an H22 till 3rd, then 4th comes and it's over.
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Hmm...I pull 5th gens in 3rd gear.

I just want MORE power.
are 5th gens that weak?? I dont see a h23 pulling any h22 in 3rd. was that guy running on 2 clyinders? you need to run another h22 in third just to see, and post the outcome.
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I dont know of ANY H23 that can take me in ANY gear.
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what about a F22B? - that's another story
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are 5th gens that weak?? I dont see a h23 pulling any h22 in 3rd. was that guy running on 2 clyinders? you need to run another h22 in third just to see, and post the outcome.
I've smoked SEVERAL 5th gens. Ask dudewithalude, po0p, 01predator...any of those guys who have been with me to the track.
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ya maybe on track but not street. When i had my 118 hp probe se i beat 200+bhp cars at the track but it didnt mean i was faster than them. race a 5th from 60 in 3rd if u think u pull them in 3rd
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ya maybe on track but not street. When i had my 118 hp probe se i beat 200+bhp cars at the track but it didnt mean i was faster than them. race a 5th from 60 in 3rd if u think u pull them in 3rd
Actually, I did pull a 5th gen, in 3rd on the street. HE actually got me sleeping on the line, but in 2nd and 3rd I pulled him in and passed him. He also had at least I/E
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I see a trend of not racing past 3rd
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what about a F22B? - that's another story
no it's not man. I for one am getting tired of all the talk about this f22b being better than the h23, just because it's a j-spec motor or sumthin. It has lower compression,less horsepower AND less torque than the h23, so what are you trying to prove? Not hatin, just wonderin why you're thinking what you're thinking.
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4th gear sucks in the H23, like I have said before, I loose races in 4th on the street, not all the time, but if I'm going to loose and I didn't get killed off the line, I'll loose in 4th. Now don't get me wrong, the H23 is fast. I beat almost every 5th gen I ever race. I run .1 slower in the 1/4 then the best 4th gen VTEC at LFW. What I'm trying to say is that the H23 is a good race between USDM VTECs, especially 5th gens, not a great race for a JDM H22.
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That's what I wanted to hear... I agree completely. A top end street race... an H22 will almost hands down win, from a stop a street race is the closest you'll ever get the 2, being that reaction time has a lot to do with it. At the track, the H22 will shine better than on the street because even if the driver were to have a bad RT, it doesn't matter like it does on the street, so that advantage of ours is taken away.

Basically to sum it up, the H23's got the low end, the H22's got the top end, and they're really close right in the middle.

of course.. all IMHO
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I happen to love my 4th gear.
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I happen to love my 4th gear.
Mine isn't that weak, either. While I haven't raced any VTEC powered Preludes in 4th or 5th, I did race a B18 powered Hatch...we were dead even from the stop, until he topped out at 110-115ish.
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I rememberd shifting to 5th at 100, now i go to like 125 in 4th with these long h23 gears.
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I rememberd shifting to 5th at 100, now i go to like 125 in 4th with these long h23 gears.
do you mean the long h22 gears??

Ryan, sometimes on the hwy. I get stuck having to race at 80, which is right at the bottom of 4th, which really sucks you know, but once it gets to 90, the rest of the gear kicks ass I think.
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do you mean the long h22 gears??

Ryan, sometimes on the hwy. I get stuck having to race at 80, which is right at the bottom of 4th, which really sucks you know, but once it gets to 90, the rest of the gear kicks ass I think.
no i have a h23 tranny. i can hit 100 in 3rd.
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