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Old 01-28-2009, 12:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i looked and couldnt find anything about this...



well..
i feel dumb for asking this,
but how is a turbo set up if its just the turbo and no intercooler, no piping, ect.
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Also, I don't have a pic of it, but the stock BOV for the 1.8t is made by Bosch.

You have to have a BOV in order to relieve the boost pressure, otherwise the car will continue to build boost until something breaks.

So, in a roundabout way, I'm saying you need to put down the crackpipe.
Please don't mock people if you don't know how things work in the first place. A wastegate regulates the boost pressure created by the turbo by regulating the amount of exhaust gasses hitting the exhaust turbine. A BOV releases pressure between the throttle body and the compressor when the throttle body shuts which prevents turbo damage due to reversal of pressure coming back to the turbo. If you were being sarcastic, sorry for being an ass.

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You don't need an intercooler, but you do need piping going from the turbo's compressor outlet to your throttle body. I highly recommend against this since H22s aren't known for being the stoutest FI engines especially in the hands of people that don't really know what they're doing.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Seriously. Any ebay $500 turbo kit is a piece of ****.

If you want to build a reliable turbo setup for your Prelude, you'd better plan on spending thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours in research, assembly, and tuning. It's not just something you throw together in a few hours.

Again, you need to spend some serious time researching in the FI forum.
Inexpensive, reliable turbo kits can be made. There are many cars that were turbocharged from the factory. These turbos, injectors, and intercoolers can be had cheap. If you can weld, then you don't have to worry about expensive fabbers making charge piping and doing exhaust work for you. Megasquirt is a cheap standalone EMS with a lot of tunability. I know of many kits that have been made for under $1k that are very reliable and make good power. They may not win a beauty contest, but not everyone needs chrome.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Please don't mock people if you don't know how things work in the first place. A wastegate regulates the boost pressure created by the turbo by regulating the amount of exhaust gasses hitting the exhaust turbine. A BOV releases pressure between the throttle body and the compressor when the throttle body shuts which prevents turbo damage due to reversal of pressure coming back to the turbo. If you were being sarcastic, sorry for being an ass.
I completely understand what a wastegate does vs. a bov. I knew that even before owning the turbo car that I own now.

What are you trying to prove to me?? I am completely correct in saying that a bov is needed to relieve boost pressure. I simply did not get as in-depth as you have in my explanation. I believe that my explanation was enough, given the complete (and admitted) lack of knowledge in explaining the process to the op.

Bov = intake side
wastegate = exhaust side.

And, as far as building a cheap *and long-lasting* turbo setup for the Prelude, can you give an example of someone who has done just that?

Not talking chrome, either.
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I completely understand what a wastegate does vs. a bov. I knew that even before owning the turbo car that I own now.
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You have to have a BOV in order to relieve the boost pressure, otherwise the car will continue to build boost until something breaks.
That is a fusion of BOV and WG... doesn't make it sound like you do.

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What are you trying to prove to me??
Nothing, just don't like bad info getting put out to people that don't know better.
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I am completely correct in saying that a bov is needed to relieve boost pressure.
True, but boost won't continue to build if it doesn't open. It actually slows down the turbo when it stays shut when the throttle is shut.
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I simply did not get as in-depth as you have in my explanation.
You also didn't answer as correctly as I did.
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I believe that my explanation was enough, given the complete (and admitted) lack of knowledge in explaining the process to the op.
Actually it was a little too much to be correct.

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Bov = intake side
wastegate = exhaust side.
Yep, sounds like you got it figured out

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And, as far as building a cheap *and long-lasting* turbo setup for the Prelude, can you give an example of someone who has done just that?
Not talking chrome, either.
home made turbo dot com
Most are d-series build ups, but a properly set up HMT kit is better than an ebay kit, and just as good as most high dollar kits. It's all in the tuning no matter what motor you start with.
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ok Blacklude, i'm proud of you for turning a new leaf and helping people more....but it's time to bring last-week's Blacklude back...
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Your multi-quoting skills are too much for me.

Maybe there's something lost in translation, or maybe I've just lost interest in this back-and-forth pissing match.

Regardless, I know how it works. Thanks.
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ok Blacklude, i'm proud of you for turning a new leaf and helping people more....but it's time to bring last-week's Blacklude back...
Last weeks?? I forget what I did yesterday, let alone, what happened last week.

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No pissing contest I just don't like when people give out bad info and then refuse to believe they aren't right. This is why I don't venture out of OT, I just come off as an asshole...
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No pissing contest I just don't like when people give out bad info and then refuse to believe they aren't right. This is why I don't venture out of OT, I just come off as an asshole...
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Aw, not going to drop any more of your uncontrollable turbo knowledgabilities on me?
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