Tranny problems here too..... - Honda Prelude Forum

aneurysm · 03-14-2005, 04:28 PM

Seems to be the breakdown of the week......here's the symptoms:

-Just drove the car on vacation. As I am pulling back into my neighborhood (after 360 miles nonstop) the car will NOT go into ANY gears without really pushing hard to slam it into position.
- The clutch slave cylinder was recently replaced, there are no other fluid leaks with the clutch line or tranny housing. Slave cylinder pushrod has good movement
- tranny will engage gears normally and smoothly with engine off, but once the engine is started it will not go into any gear unless I really slam it into place.
-The idle is rough at resting position with the tranny in gear with clutch pushed in.

Let me know if you have any ideas.........hopefully cheap ones.

brad

Absolut · 03-14-2005, 05:02 PM

The clutch cylinder is out of adjustment, your not fully disengaging the clutch.

Rebuilt or remanned clutch cylinders are notorious for being 'off' and not working quite right. See if you can adjust where the rod meets the clutch pedal to get some more movement twards the clutch cylinder.

GaRn · 03-14-2005, 06:50 PM

what about the clutch master cylinder...

aneurysm · 03-14-2005, 07:00 PM

**no other fluid leaks**
The slave and master cylinders show no abnormalities, no leaks.
I had a my girlfriend depress the clutch which I watch the slave cylinder and it moved in and out as it is suposed to at the tranny housing.....

I am confident that this is an internal tranismission thing.....just trying to narrow it down....

brad

trident · 03-14-2005, 07:31 PM

This will sound silly, but have you checked all the bolts on your transmission? There is a bolt that holds the reverse idler gear in place that has the potential to fall out. If this happens, you can lose all your transmission fluid. This would cause your gears to stop working while the engine is running. If it was one or two gears, I would say it's your synchros, but all gears at the same time is either a clutch problem, or an internal friction problem (no oil). Good luck

4thGenReady2Go · 03-14-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GaRn

what about the clutch master cylinder...

I think that's what absolut was talking about, but did you replace your master cylinder as well? That pushrod needs to be the same length as is on the old master cylinder, and there's a reason why you shouldn't buy remanned clutch master cylinders. But since you only mentioned replacing the slave cylinder,

aneurysm · 03-14-2005, 08:21 PM

again, slave cylinder was replaced with new OEM part.....master cylinder is OK (and OEM too).

GaRn · 03-14-2005, 08:43 PM

bleed your clutch line.. try that since you just replaced your slave cylinder..

aneurysm · 03-14-2005, 10:36 PM

slave cylinder has been 100% since I installed it.....yes, it was bled. It is NOT the slave cylinder. I mentioned that I had my girlfriend press the pedal and the push rod moves in and out of the tranny housing the way it should.

bg

petern101 · 03-14-2005, 11:57 PM

same symptoms when my throwout bearing went out..........had to replace that but in process put in new clutch/lighten flywheel

yohan420 · 03-15-2005, 09:40 AM

How old is your clutch?

Humor us, try and bleed your clutch line...

Check your resevoir to make sure the fluid is topped off as well.

Also, check the fluid level in the transmission, take out the fill bolt and dip your finger in, make sure its level with the fill bolt.

Lucke · 03-15-2005, 02:30 PM

no offense, but you're so sure that what everyone is telling you to try isnt' the problem, then why are you asking for help?

try doing the things people are suggesting, then post back. unless you just think everyone here is a complete moron. if thats the case, then say so and be done with it.

4thGenReady2Go · 03-15-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucke

no offense, but you're so sure that what everyone is telling you to try isnt' the problem, then why are you asking for help?

try doing the things people are suggesting, then post back. unless you just think everyone here is a complete moron. if thats the case, then say so and be done with it.

well I for one certainly think everyone here is a ...

jgpowered05 · 03-15-2005, 06:48 PM

same exact symptoms when my clutch pedal was just out of alignment, all I did was adjust to the specs in the shop manual and hasn't happened since, about 3 months. sorry, I would just scan that page and post it, but I can't even figure out how to make my pics work yet on this web site.work fine on others though. lol. It only takes half hour to adjust so why not try.

4thGenReady2Go · 03-15-2005, 08:17 PM

^^ are the image tags not working for you? All you have to do is copy the entire URL to the image in between "[img]" and "[/img]" , minus the " " marks.

aneurysm · 03-16-2005, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucke

no offense, but you're so sure that what everyone is telling you to try isnt' the problem, then why are you asking for help?

try doing the things people are suggesting, then post back. unless you just think everyone here is a complete moron. if thats the case, then say so and be done with it.

woah.......hang on there. im not trying to dismiss people's suggestions at all. I do happen to be a darn good mechanic (I have done all of the work on my car myself.....except for tranny mods) - however, I am not that knowledgeable about internal transmission work. I am good enough though to check things like clutch petals, fluid levels, slave cylinders, and so on.

I was simply asking others if they have had similar symptoms and what they did to fix it. Since I am certain that it is an internal transmission problem, external solutions are not viable to me.

there's no need to snap. we're all here to share our knowledge with others, and to get feedback on our own car troubles/questions. don't assume that I haven't already done what everyone has suggested.

bg

Lucke · 03-16-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aneurysm

woah.......hang on there. im not trying to dismiss people's suggestions at all. I do happen to be a darn good mechanic (I have done all of the work on my car myself.....except for tranny mods) - however, I am not that knowledgeable about internal transmission work. I am good enough though to check things like clutch petals, fluid levels, slave cylinders, and so on.

I was simply asking others if they have had similar symptoms and what they did to fix it. Since I am certain that it is an internal transmission problem, external solutions are not viable to me.

there's no need to snap. we're all here to share our knowledge with others, and to get feedback on our own car troubles/questions. don't assume that I haven't already done what everyone has suggested.

bg

but you didn't read... people were saying that they were experiencing symptoms similar to yours, and they how they fixed it. but your next post dissmissed it.

i was never saying that you were not good with mechanics, i was saying that people were giving you suggestions and you were seemingly overlooking them. you never once said "i tried that already, and it didnt' work". you kept saying that the suggested thing to look at wasn't the problem.

and now for my final comment in this thread: since nobody is perfect, you might want to just go back through and double check things, even the slightest mistake can cause a big problem

again, nobody is perfect.

vipastyle · 03-17-2005, 09:29 AM

My car was doing this same thing about 2 weeks ago then the next day my shifter just moved around freely, and it wasn't the linkage. Ended up having to replace the transmission.

trident · 03-18-2005, 08:55 AM

I don't know why I didn't remember this earlier, but honda had a bulletin on some of the shift forks in the transmission. I believe one of them would bend (ever so slightly) and it would manifest itself in an inability to shift gears smoothly. This is something else to look into. As far as the shifter just moving freely, the only single point failure that could cause that problem, other than the shift cable, would be shifter actuator which sits outside the transmission. It's a little bar that physically moves each of the shift forks. If this piece broke, then it would cause the shifter to move around freely.

aneurysm · 03-19-2005, 01:41 AM

Well, my predictions were correct: internal problem. Clutch pressure plate and disc replaced today. Previous disc retainer spring mount was broken causing clutch disc failure.

brad