part part of the car is supposed to be parallel to the floor to make sure the car is exactly level? i was thinking the shroud cover from 4bidden looks pretty straight with the rest of the car. i want to put bubble meters on some kinda part of the car to know if the car is parallel to the ground or not because when i check my oil, im not sure how much of a different to expect.
so what do you think? what part of the prelude is most parallel to the floor and is easily accesable.
if this is just for checking oil I don't see how much of a difference it can make. Just eyeball the flattest surface you can put the car on. Now, granted you do put a little levling device like a bubble meter on the car, then what? It's going to be pretty damn hard to find a ground that is completely level to accomodate the purpose of the bubble meter. Also, it doesn't matter which part of the prelude is most 'parallel', the point is that whatever this part is, IT needs to be parallel with a perfectly level ground for it to make any sense. I don't see where you can find that unless it's that once a year day called the vernal equinox where you can balance an egg on its end
edit: egg correction for the term nazi... side was the first thing that came to mind
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not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
i know its too hard to try to find a perfeclty level surface but i would have liked to know how off the surface is anyway. i wont go trying to find the most level surface ever. so forget i even mentioned checking oil at all. and im pretty sure that you can understand exactly what i was talking about when i said parallel to the floor. i meant the car part thats most parallel with a straight floor that is easily accessable.
btw, when i measure my cars oil level, its so damn finicky, sometimes it will be low, then high sometimes perfect and the ground seems to be pretty level so sometimes i just want to know how unlevel the surface is that its giving me that reading. but anyway, regardless of oil, i still would like to know the answer to my question.
If your car is just sitting and cooled, the oil level shouldn't be fluxating from low to high etc. Only time I can see the oil level being high is when you check it right after you turn the car off. Then after it cools all the oil drains to the bottom again and then you will get a lower reading.
But to answer your q, I'd say any part on the under carriage of the car the frame, fuel lines, oem side skirts? Basically everything on the bottom should be pretty parallel I think unless something is bent.
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Originally Posted by vile10
not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
If your car is just sitting and cooled, the oil level shouldn't be fluxating from low to high etc. Only time I can see the oil level being high is when you check it right after you turn the car off. Then after it cools all the oil drains to the bottom again and then you will get a lower reading.
dont you mean the opposite? it will be low when you first turn it and then higher when it cools and all the oil drains down?
i just thought of something. if i can find a pretty decently level surface and park my car there, ill be able to see which parts are level but using the bubble meter. im not gonna around trying to find one but if i happen to see somewhere where the ground looks pretty level, ill make a quick stop hehe. most usually gas stations are pretty level.
I don't quite understand what you mean the opposite. Think of it like a blender. When a blender is on, crap gets all over the place, but if you let it sit for a few hours, all of the stuff will have crept back down to the bottom. That's an anaology of what I meant, not sure what you're trying to say though hehe.
Oh yah, and another thing. Your car will have to be seated on its suspension equally as well for the exactness it seems like your asking for. So in that aspect, can't really rely on a 'certain' part of the car for complete levelness since the weight is shifted in so many different places of the car; you can always get your car corner weighed though.
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not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
when i said opposite, its cause you made it sound opposite, that if you check the oil right after the car turns off, it will be high but then after you let it cool down, it will be high. im saying its the opposite. oil is low right after you turn off the car and high when you let it sit for a while. referring to the dip stick. maybe youre referring to something else, i dont know.
im not really looking for perfection to begin with so im not going to start taking my cars suspension as a factor. just like if you part your car on a level surface, you arent gonna wonder hey, my suspension isnt exactly on front and rear and also i have sub woofers so that may add to it. nah, you think well, its pretty level, thats good enough for me. i simply want to know when my car is pretty much level and when it is know and if so, by how much. its more curiosity than anything really. so im not looking for exactness, just a good approximation.
btw, this is getting way too over complicated.
lets just reduce it down to this...
what part on the car do you think is most parallel to the ground?
aiya... just to prevent confusion for others and yourself: Next time you drive your car and turn it off, immediately check your dipstick and you'll notice the line on the dipstick will be extremeley high. But then after the car cools off and you check the level again, the level on the dipstick will have dropped drastically. That's what i mean.
on topic... i think your questoin has been answered already dood. take your pick. and if you still don't get it you can test it on your own for christs sake . Put a bubble meter on the floor, then put it on a part of the car and see for yourself. Then you can come back and tell all of us what you found is the most 'parallel' part on our cars.
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Originally Posted by vile10
not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
aiya... just to prevent confusion for others and yourself: Next time you drive your car and turn it off, immediately check your dipstick and you'll notice the line on the dipstick will be extremeley high. But then after the car cools off and you check the level again, the level on the dipstick will have dropped drastically. That's what i mean.
that doesnt compare with your analogy. and i would think its the other way around. cause right after you turn off your car, the oil is all over the head and pistons and everything, so the oil level will be low. but once you give it time to drip down, it will collect in the oil pan and youll get a higher reading cause all the oil has collected. thats how i see it and how i always thought of it. can anyone confirm this?
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on topic... i think your questoin has been answered already dood. take your pick. and if you still don't get it you can test it on your own for christs sake . Put a bubble meter on the floor, then put it on a part of the car and see for yourself. Then you can come back and tell all of us what you found is the most 'parallel' part on our cars
for chirst sake? lol. you make it sound like i got 20 answers to my question. i do plan to test it on my own. think about it, what answers did i get to my question that you can make it sound like that? only answers i got was you saying about stuff on the bottom of the car which isnt easily accessable and petern saying to put it on a lift to make it level. so hmm... let me "take my pick". so please dont make it sound like i got tons of answers and im still asking the question. so what is there "still not to get"? i simply had to clarify the question again because you seem to have trouble understanding what im asking about and asking me why i need to know. the thread has been flooded by our back and forth crap about how level the car should be and factor the suspension in (lol) and stuff that didnt answer my question. i asked the question again at the end of my post to clarify the question better, thats it. im gonna test it out for myself on a decently leveled surface and ill report back even though i doubt anyone cares. it doesnt even really need to be a very level surface, i just have to match up the bubble positon on the ground with a part on the car. so all i really need is a straight surface.
damn i wrote a lot.... you made my thread so complicated.
i just realized i asked the question right in the first place! the part that is most parallel to the floor. the floor doesnt have to be level, just flat so i can see how unlevel the car is. so i asked it right in the first place, i thought that i somehow asked it wrong cause you got into all the semantics about it...
the oil levels raise when under pressure, that's why it's higher when car is hot.
i think youre wrong. i think it compares to your blender analogy that the level is low until you stop it, then it all drips and collects at the bottom. oil levels dont raise under pressure. especailly when the car is off, theres no pressure. the oil simply needs to drip down and collect and that results in higher oil levels after a while. can anyone confirm this for me?
? no one said you asked a wrong question... it's just that your question was vague and open to so many different answers so I just gave you what I thought. I don't think I said anything too confusing and i just listed a few parts off the top of my head I thought was answering your q. Again, you can just test it yourself... didn't have to ask people on here.
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Originally Posted by vile10
not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
i think youre wrong. i think it compares to your blender analogy that the level is low until you stop it, then it all drips and collects at the bottom. oil levels dont raise under pressure. especailly when the car is off, theres no pressure. the oil simply needs to drip down and collect and that results in higher oil levels after a while. can anyone confirm this for me?
if you test oil level immediately after you turn your car off, the line on the dipstick will be high... give it a few minutes and let the oil settle down then test it again and the level on the dipstick will be lower. Just go out to your car now and see for yourself. That's all I was trying to say, forget about my analogy.
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Originally Posted by vile10
not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
ugh, whatever man. its a simple question that needs an simple answer. nothing vague about it. i asked here the same reason anyone asks a question here. to see if anyone knows the answer before going through the process of testing it. am i wrong?
i think im just gonna delete this thread, its completely useless to anyone. i think we wasted enough of our time on this
if you test oil level immediately after you turn your car off, the line on the dipstick will be high... give it a few minutes and let the oil settle down then test it again and the level on the dipstick will be lower. Just go out to your car now and see for yourself. That's all I was trying to say, forget about my analogy.
yep, you might be right. i just want someone to confirm is all.
oil expands when its warm. But you have made my curious myself to search around a bit, but this is just experience from what I seen first hand as well when I was curious to see what the level would read RIGHt after i turned my car off because of debate whether to test when engine is dead cold or semi warm.
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not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
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. Put a bubble meter on the floor, then put it on a part of the car and see for yourself. Then you can come back and tell all of us what you found is the most 'parallel' part on our cars.
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