for those of you who have the tein ss, what did you guys do with your brake lines since the tein ss has no brake line bracket for the front dampers of the 4th gens? just got my teins installed yesterday
and was it ok that we used a impact gun to install it? since almost everything says not to use a impact wrench. i didnt use it on the piston rod top locking nut tho. i have so many questions but ide like to ask tein them but they didnt reply to my email and i cant find their phone number.
hmm... i already used a impact gun. is that bad? i dont see how it would be so bad since the strut will prob get shocked a lot worse on the road so a impact gun wouldnt do much. ya know?
i wasnt sure if there was a break in period cuz the manual said "upon installation, avoid rough handling and drive slowly."
we didnt use a the impact gun on the top locking nut on the piston rod. but everything else, we used it. didnt really torque to spec either, since hes a mechanic, he knows how much to tighten stuff. would be hard to use a torque wrench in those areas anyway.
btw, maybe ill torque the top locking piston rod nut but it only lists it in 29 N m. i need it in ft lbs.
and i dont feel too good using crappy little zipties to hold my brake lines. ill just have to fab something up. wont be hard or anything, will just give it a nicer look, even though you wont be able to see it ever hehe.
Last edited by MidNiteMysT; 11-24-2004 at 04:18 PM.
Oops, I totally ignored the "drive slowly & avoid rough handling" part, haha. After having mine installed, I drove a mile or two, and RAILED a turn onto the 405 freeway at around 70-80, and the asphault was really bad...but the coilovers soaked everything right up. I love them still.
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im kinda worried now about the impact gun being used now. what do you guys think? usually every company says stuff like never use a impact gun cuz they dont wanna be responsible if a bolt goes bad or something. just like they always say "for off road use only" and "we are not responsible blah blah". what do you guys think? should i be worried about it?
Hey man, no harsh feelings, I gave my advice up top right after your post, you did the exact opposite of the three things I mentioned.
As long as you know for a fact that the bolts are secure, you should be fine.
if you notice, the top post indictated that i already installed the suspension the day before i even made the post. its not like you told me i shouldnt use a impact wrench, then used it anyway which it seems like you were implying.
is the reason not to use a impact gun because its bad for the suspension bolts or the dampeners?
yep, they are def pretty secure. are you supposed to tighten the bolts under the dampeners while theres a vehicle load on it? cuz i think thats what the helms said, but the tein manual didnt mention that.
whats done is done, just wondering if i should be worried or if it probably/most likely damaged the dampeners.
{makes angry cat fight noises} haha, calm down there killers. Don't worry so much about it, if something breaks, you'll notice, otherwise you'll be fine. Honestly, what's the point in worrying when there's little you can do anyway.
As page 2 of the manual states
Quote:
CAUTION
If an impact wrench is used in the removal and installation of the upper mount, loads me be placed on the nut inside the shock absorober which may cause loosening or otherwise damage the product. AN IMPACT WRENCH SHOULD NOT BE USED DURING INSTALLATION unless absolutely necessary. However, if it is imperative that an impact wrench be used, make sure to conduct the operation at LOW torque, and MAKE SURE THAT THE MAIN ROD DOES NOT TURN. ...
why there's no point to go on and on about it? ...
Quote:
... Tein assumes no responsibility for loose internal nuts caused by improper impact wrench use
so even if something was damaged, taking it off and returning it won't do you any good, so just drive and if something does happen to be wrong (which I'm betting there isn't), it'll happen when it'll happen, c'est la vie.
oh yeah, and if you'd searched ( ) I posted a thread not too long ago regarding the brake line thing. Zip ties here too, so far so good.
oh yeah, I know we live in a country where we still measure things based on a man's smelly foot, but 29Nm is about 21 lb-ft
lol, we arent fighting at all. it just looked like he thought that he gave me advice and i didnt follow. just wanted to clear that up.
i didnt use the impact wrench on the upper mount area, basically any bolts under the hood, so at least thats good. im surprised i didnt notice that myself. i only used it on the parts in the wheel well like the pinch bolt and fork bolt and maybe to install my camber kit but that isnt really connected to the dampers. so i guess im good. i feel better now just curious, tho, what do they mean main rod shouldnt turn? whats the main rod? and did you break in your dampers slowly or is it ready for use right away? i wanna ride these suckers. thanx
Well I used them the minute I exited the lot when the driveway was a little higher than the road and ... hehe, you get the idea. I know, I know, did I really use them? I think my dad was with me when I drove it back to his place so I didn't push the car 'cause he complains lol. I might've hit an exit ramp at slightly higher-than-average speeds, but that's it. I didn't even think of break in or see it in the manual. They mean the rod that protrudes from the damper housing up through your shock tower. I guess it may be possible to turn it if you use an impact gun on the castle nut.
"We recommend some break-in period to optimize the life of dampers.
You do not need to be extra tender, but it is a good idea to avoid
aggressive or rough driving."
directly answered email from tein in japan.
so after you reset the damper by turning it clockwise until it stops, its now at 0 or 1? and the count starts by each click counterclock wise correct? like 8 is 8 clicks counter clockwise and 12 is 12 clicks counter clockwise correct?
no, when you rotate it completely clockwise, it's now at it's hardest setting, 16, you then turn it back 8 to reach the mid point, or "standard", half way between hard and soft. Or you can set it at whatever you'd like, but all the way CW is hardest/16, and CCW is going softer.
ooo. so all the way clockwise is 16 and then each click CCW it goes down one number?
and btw, my mechanic turned it CCW up to 24 clicks while off the car, but then he turned it back clock wise. is it ok that he turned it pas 16? or is it only a problem when you drive on a setting not in 1-16
i believe from what I can remember of the manual, it said not to drive on any setting beyond the extremes, so I suppose it's ok as long as he returned to a normal setting, but if he was able to click past 16 how can he be sure where it's at now? I only ask because if for some reason yours keep clicking without any additional resistance, it'll get kind of hard to figure out if you're a 16 or a higher, unrecommended setting.
I wouldn't recommend driving the car daily at 16 or 1, try to find something a little closer to the middle, but realistically those settings are there for you, so you don't have to stick to 8.
Yes, CW is +, and harder, CCW -, and softer.16 is hardest, 1 is softest.
[QUOTE=4thGenReady2Go]i believe from what I can remember of the manual, it said not to drive on any setting beyond the extremes, so I suppose it's ok as long as he returned to a normal setting, but if he was able to click past 16 how can he be sure where it's at now? I only ask because if for some reason yours keep clicking without any additional resistance, it'll get kind of hard to figure out if you're a 16 or a higher, unrecommended setting.
I wouldn't recommend driving the car daily at 16 or 1, try to find something a little closer to the middle, but realistically those settings are there for you, so you don't have to stick to 8.QUOTE]
what i meant to say was, he turned it past 1 CCW so it went to 0, -1, -2, etc. i wasnt sure how it worked in the beginning. so when i set it to all the way CW, its at 16, then he turned it CCW 24 clicks. yea, im also cautious and didnt want to put it on 16 or 1. i think ill stick with 3-14 as my extemes to use.
btw, are you supposed to reset it to 16 everytime you change the dial? or can you go from like 13 to 9 without putting it back to 16? i heard someone saying that your supposed to reset it each time and go from the 16 point.
either way, it doesn't matter, the fact that he went past either of the extremes may make things a little more difficult for you next time you want to adjust it and try to go to an extreme as a starting point and it keeps clicking ... it shouldn't, either the tech forced it or, well, I dunno.
You don't have to reset it, but you should cycle the valve once in a while for maintenance purposes. You can go from any setting to another without going to either extreme.
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