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Old 08-20-2003, 12:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Suggestions,opinions, blown headgasket?

I searched around and didnt see anything in description to what happened to me

Earlier today on my way to work I notice the car had a feeling of everytime i pressed the throttle their was something the size of a truck pushing me the other way

It was registering as overheating, k np not a big thing to worry and only been driving for 30 minutes and didnt show till 25 minutes in on driving

So i pull in at work , and I hear the sizzling sound of what seems to be overheating,

I pop open the hood and then the hose from the radiator to the head blows open out the side and shoots what looks to be (to describe the color) Chocolate milk. (water and oil same color)

Wasnt like this a week ago when I had checked the water and changed the oil.


Only thing I can think of right now before I start wrenching on it is that its a blown head gasket, but the odd thing is that I never had any smoke nor any skipping etc. So then I am left thinking that it didnt blow around the combustion chamber areas. but is that even possible?

My other two options I think are blown block (passage ports for oil and water) or Cracked head (passage ports oil and water)

but I again dont know if I should rule that since their was no major noticable difference other than poor throttle response, which i am thinking is a character of the overheating symptom.

Any suggestions are welcomed.

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Old 08-20-2003, 12:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My car has started to do this now as well.... the "skipping" anyways. Mine's not overheating though, so I'm totally clueless. I think my problem is in the fuel though, probably the filter IMO.
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Old 08-20-2003, 02:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds like a headgasket to me. So, you kept driving after it started overheating?
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Didnt have much of a choice, lol no where to stop, Already a lil late for work,

but actually when It did show a higher tempature, it was not listing as really really hot, just the tempature was higher than norm,

And me driving 5 minutes like that is a little overstated as from the spot the light on the temp gauge went up to my final destination was about 2 miles.

Well I am hoping it is just a headgasket, I have been thinking of theories and whatever I can come up with still will involve me pulling the head, having it checked for cracks and straightness and replacing the gasket anyhow.

A fix is not so hard to accomplish as I am just trying to find out why it happened in the first place

I just thougt tho that if it was a blown headgasket that I would have the symptoms of white smoke etc. never around a waterjacket and oil port ?

I was thinking at first that maybe my thermostat got stuck and with the pressure increase it warped the head enough to allow the two fluids to mix......

I dont know, I just lost as in the answer why, I should know more when I get the head off ... at least I hope
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A blown headgasket can lead to a warped/cracked/irreparable head. Should've stopped. Good luck anyway.
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So, white smoke leads to numerous things, but one of them is a blown head gasket? I didn't know that. I noticed white smoke coming from my tailpipe the other day... it was idling, is that when it happens?
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So, white smoke leads to numerous things, but one of them is a blown head gasket? I didn't know that. I noticed white smoke coming from my tailpipe the other day... it was idling, is that when it happens?
No, it would be an indication of a blown head gasket, not the cause.
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blue smoke = oil
white smoke = coolant

have it checked ASAP, and dont drive til fixed

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no I not driving it, its now at my garage to begin the process of taking of repairing.

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I am well aware of the affects of driving when overheated, and I have wrenched on this thing and previous cars alot, so please dont tell me what I should have done, I know the effects, and the gauge was not in the red when I finally stopped, granted the temp was higher.

I was really looking for someone to inform me their thoughts on why the oil and water would mix together so much that it became the color of overly milked coffee and why I maybe didnt have any indications of skipping, smoke , misfiring etc. not to lecture me.
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no I not driving it, its now at my garage to begin the process of taking of repairing.

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I am well aware of the affects of driving when overheated, and I have wrenched on this thing and previous cars alot, so please dont tell me what I should have done, I know the effects, and the gauge was not in the red when I finally stopped, granted the temp was higher.

I was really looking for someone to inform me their thoughts on why the oil and water would mix together so much that it became the color of overly milked coffee and why I maybe didnt have any indications of skipping, smoke , misfiring etc. not to lecture me.
When oil and your coolant mixture mix and heat up, that's what happens, it turns brownish, and has a consistancy of runny peanut butter. Just because the head gasket has been damaged doesn't mean it completely blew out instantly. Usually it's a gradual thing. Starts overheating, the coolant and oil mix...if you let it go more, then it'll start running like ass.

But, since you've wrenched on other cars and whatnot, I'm sure I'm just telling you junk you already know.

Might want to pull out your plugs, and look at the tops of the pistons. If there is one that is significantly cleaner than the others, then you've got a blown head gasket. The water gets in, heats up to steam, and steam cleans the piston.
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well I spent the last 3.5 hours taking of the head and draining fluid,

right now, when I drained the oil pan it was dark, not like the cooling system, same when I took off the oil filter.

when i took out the coolant drain bolt behind the block I got of course same light brown gunk.

I looked over head gasket and no noticable indication of it being damaged, but again looking at water jackets and same thing,

Oil in the head seemed to be normal as well.

This is not a good past two days. I am running out of ideas, or just trying to not think the worst of cracked head or block.

I taking the head to a shop tomorrow to have cleaned and crack tested as well as checking for warping

and pardon me if I came off rude, but I just didnt want to be lectured when it seems that right now I might have a big problem on hand, and not ready to see the lude die, so I apologize.
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