LudemanDan

Hey,
I read in an archived thread on Honda-tech that you might be able to squeeze some extra gas mileage by setting the rear toe to zero. What is the stock rear toe, and why is it not zero? I value handling and longevity, and I'm curious what the effects of setting to zero would be.

Thanks,

-Dan

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vtecspd

Any toe setting other than zero will cause the tires to drag .... drag can cause the tires to wear out more quickly and gas mileage to suffer. That being said, your toe settings would have to be in the range of 1/4" (0.46 deg) or more to see that effect.

Typically for autoxing (FWD cars), you set the toe for toe-out at the front and rear. Like 1/16" (.15 deg) total toe-out. This will help with intial turn-in and also enhance the rear to slide around, helping to steer.

yield

If you want the least amount of tire wear and maaybe a little better mileage, go with 0 toe. there are no "effects", it's just your 4 tires pointing straight ahead, rather than pointing in or out a little.

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monk3y

if you can get the car to rotate without toe-ing out the rear, do it. this is for the sake of tire life. toe kills tires.

a good example here is the WRX. in stock A/X classes, it's apparently impossible to keep this car from pushing all over the place due to its weight and suspension design. therefore D-stock WRX guys are running MAX toe out on their cars to keep them driveable--but since you're probably not driving any stock classes, and can add a rear sway and change spring rates etc, you're better off saving toe-out for one of your last resorts.

i'm running as close to zero as those monkeys at firestone can get me.

LudemanDan

Thanks guys. Actually, I am a stock-class driver (GS) although I have yet to race my new car (different from the one in the sig, obviously).

I finally dug up my old alignment numbers and stock toe is indeed zero. I'll keep it that way since my primary concern is mileage and longevity. I can still throw the car around okay.

Dan

P.S. Oh, and I won't have any monkeys doing my alignment.

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