i just got my alignment done about 2 months ago, that corrected most of it, it's not when i brake, so it's not my rotors...
i had two tires that were at the front of my car that supossedly the tire inside, underneath was seperating and causing them to wobble up and down when spinning(this you can see when balancing)
i thought balancing would solve the wheel shake, but it didn't, i put those two tires to the back and got 2 new tires up at the front....
so my alignment is perfect, i have new tires on the front...and still i get wheel shake...what else could it be??
could it be my driveshaft or rack&pinion rack?? what u think?...
it is only felt at speeds above about 40mph...could that steering rack adjustment do it? could it just be that my steering is a bit loose?
it's seperating on the inside of the tire...that's what the guy at the tire place said...the inside layers are shifting, causing it to wobble up and down...which yes is really bad...and i'm pissed off...
the tire is only 15,000kms old...about 10,000miles...yokohama avid h4 205/40/17...i think this is a manufacturer defect...
the 2 new tires(same make) i bought seem to have an upgraded side wall...seems stronger and the psi max has changed from 36 to 50 psi...
they must have changed their construction for a reason...i think i should write yokohama!!
That's probably why it is still shaking then. It just feels like less because it is on the rear now. Yes, tread separation is usually a manufactoring problem and is a safety issue. I think low air pressure can do it also but I'm not sure. Did the dealer refuse to replace it? If he did, I would talk to the company. He should give you at least partial credit towards the purchase of new tires. They are probably afraid of lawsuits right now after the Firestone/Ford fiasco with the treads separating leading to blowouts and roll overs. 10,000 miles isn't very far, worth a try. My .02
jack your car up off the ground. firmly grasp at 9 and 3 on your wheel and gently wobble it back and forth. if it DOES wobble, you need to get your tie rods checked.
i went through 2 potenza re950s in THREE WEEKS [250 bucks on TWO TIRES in THREE WEEKS @#()*@] because my front tie rods were screwed.
dont blame yok' yet. check that and let me know. i have video of what the re950's looked like. completely seperated. if you really want it i can get it off the camera. i think i have the tie rods shown as well. also, ive got video of what the wheel does if your tie rods are shot.
please check this and post back up when you do it
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if you only have 15k miles on the tire, then why don't you get it replaced by warranty? .. If Walmart tires have 60k mile warranty then so should your yok's -- ESPECIALLY with a defect like that.
Originally posted by bk94si He has already been told AND shown that the tire is bad. Might as well take care of KNOWN problems before looking for another cause. IMHO
who says thats yokohamas problem? if the tie rods are screwed, a warranty wont replace that unless you have some crazy one. the warranty on my re950s only covered regular road conditions and wear. it doesnt cover problems that your car has.
im workin on the video right now. ill post it once i get done
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Originally posted by G_Loc i think bk94Si was referring to the warranty in regards to replacing the tire, not the tie rods.
yes i realize that. but you also need to realize that a regular tire warranty wont cover irregular tire wear due to problems with your car, such as tie rods. its not yokohama's duty to keep those up to par.
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it could also be a bent rim. i have one but i dont have the cash to fix it yet. have you run into any curbs or nething recently?
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yes i realize that. but you also need to realize that a regular tire warranty wont cover irregular tire wear due to problems with your car, such as tie rods. its not yokohama's duty to keep those up to par.
Tread separation is not irregular tire wear it is usually a manufactoring defect. Just ask ford and firestone who just lost their shirts being sued for it on their explorers.
Originally posted by bk94si Tread separation is not irregular tire wear it is usually a manufactoring defect. Just ask ford and firestone who just lost their shirts being sued for it on their explorers.
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i think bk94Si was referring to the warranty in regards to replacing the tire, not the tie rods.
alright, when the next set of tires comes and goes, and the next, and the next, dont count on yok' or anyone else to keep replacing your tires.
when your engine burns up due to lack of oil, do you go to honda and tell them there is a manufacturers defect? there is a reason your tires are screwing up, and i highly doubt its the tire itself. take 5 minutes out of your life and go check.
if you dont want to hear what i have already been through and experienced with this, thats fine. im not going to sit here and try to help you out anymore.
good luck
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This is most likely a very simple thing, first you should check to see if you lost your hub centric rings. If you have aftermarket rims you most likey have these. You would be surprised how much impact not having a ring will have. A friend of mine with a mercedes and oz wheels couldn't figure out why he had this wierd shaking until they found he was missing a hub centric ring.
Do you know of a good shop with a dynamic tire balancer? It should be able to determine where the main spring points of the tire and rim are, so the tire should be mounted in such a way to minimize it. That being said, it is very possible that your rim is not true and the tire is not true. I don't believe anyone covers a tire not being true, since deformation is somewhat necessary in a tire.
Interesting about the tie rods though. I think I should check mine
Originally posted by G_Loc how would a bad tie rod cause the thread to separate?
The Loose tie rod isn't what cause the Ply Seperation. The Ply seperation is due to many things, could have been tire was under inflated which caused much flexing in the walls or he could've hit a hard bump that seperated the ply. I am pretty sure your Tie Rods are fine since they did an alignment on your car. You can't do an alignment on a car with a loose front end.
IT IS NOT SAFE TO DRIVE ON A TIRE THAT HAS PLY SEPERATION!!! Its not Yoko's fault that your ply seperated, its just that the tire met the right condition and situation that caused it to seperate like it did. And rotating it to the back won't solve your shaking problem. Your best bet is to replace those 2 tires as well and go ***** at that Tire place for letting you drive off with 2 ply seperated tires. They're ****ing retards and could be held liable if anything happens to you.
Just replace your tires and you won't have that shaking problem anymore. Peace.
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