Rear Suspension sway - Honda Prelude Forum

E_Luder · 08-02-2005, 08:43 AM

For a while now I have had an issue with rear of my car. It feels like it has more play in the corners than the front. Its feels too loose. My suspension setup is as follows...
Tokico Illuminas 5 way adj.
Apex springs
Suspension Techniques sway bars (front and rear)
energy syspension poly busings on the front swaybar
(Ingalls camber kits)

For all the components that have been added over the years I am surprised to have any play in the rear at all. The front tracks extremely well. Shortly I plan on putting energy suspension poly bushings in my rear swaybar end links as well as those clamps that keep it from moving from side to side.
I don't know if the above will fix the situation but I am going to make the changes in an effort to do so.

If anyone can offer possible solutions that would be great.

Thanks

4thGenReady2Go · 08-02-2005, 11:50 PM

my first suggestion would be to inspect the underside of your car to see if the sway bar is still connected properly. Check your camber kits to make sure they're securely fastened and haven't come out of adjustment or something.

UWNTSUM · 08-03-2005, 01:07 AM

the bolt points for the rear sway bar for the ST bars suck, they tend to rip out and tear the bolt out. I've seen a few cars at the shop that had that problem. Check that.

E_Luder · 08-03-2005, 01:56 PM

I'm sure that he bolt hasn't been ripped out. I don't push the car hard enough for that to happen. I'll give it a once over again.
I was more wondering is something loosening in the back off the stock components could contribute to this.

JDMugenBB1 · 08-03-2005, 02:08 PM

how long have you had the struts?? maybe the rebound side of it has some play from them getting old...? There is a compression & a rebound side to a strut.

Did your back end always feel this way?? was there a point when it wasn't like this?

List the suspension parts you have installed, in the order in which you installed them. Also list the way each part felt once it was installed (if you noticed a difference) ... maybe along the way you counter-acted something... just a thought.

Ceasar

JDMugenBB1 · 08-03-2005, 02:21 PM

hey UWNTSUM ... I got bored & I saw your sig earlier & decided to take out the cardomain crap (unless you like it there)... so here ya go. It's already hosted too... ready to go. Hehe sorry for highjacking the thread...

Back to the suspension talk

E_Luder · 08-05-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMugenBB1

how long have you had the struts??

The struts have been on the car for roughly 15,000 Km so I hope they still are intact. On bumps the shocks seem to be well in control of the bouncing so I would rule that out.

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Did your back end always feel this way?? was there a point when it wasn't like this?

No it didn't but my suspension was pretty much done all at the same time

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List the suspension parts you have installed, in the order in which you installed them.

Tokico Illuminas Shocks (5way)
Apex Springs (1.6 drop)
Ingalls Camber kit on all 4 corners
Suspension Tech. sways front and back
Complete Poly bushings on the front sway
Poly bushing at rear where the sway connects to the body of the car (middle of sway)
Stock bushings on rear sway at endlinks

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maybe along the way you counter-acted something... just a thought.

I fear that something like this may be the case but can't see why. With the components I have added its hard to see why something would be countering another.
I am thinking that maybe a stock componenet is failing and that is causing the issue.

Ceasar[/QUOTE]

JDMugenBB1 · 08-05-2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by E_Luder

The struts have been on the car for roughly 15,000 Km so I hope they still are intact. On bumps the shocks seem to be well in control of the bouncing so I would rule that out.

No it didn't but my suspension was pretty much done all at the same time

Tokico Illuminas Shocks (5way)
Apex Springs (1.6 drop)
Ingalls Camber kit on all 4 corners
Suspension Tech. sways front and back
Complete Poly bushings on the front sway
Poly bushing at rear where the sway connects to the body of the car (middle of sway)
Stock bushings on rear sway at endlinks
I fear that something like this may be the case but can't see why. With the components I have added its hard to see why something would be countering another.
I am thinking that maybe a stock componenet is failing and that is causing the issue.

What cambers do you have?? I found that when I installed my rear camber kit... my back end did seem alil loose, a feeling that wasn't like that before. Also what degree camber kit did you get... the "slight drop" one... or the "real aggressive drop" one ??

E_Luder · 08-05-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMugenBB1

Also what degree camber kit did you get... the "slight drop" one... or the "real aggressive drop" one ??

I have Ingalls kit. I believe that its the milder of the two. It was purchased a while ago. Any ideas on why a camber kit would cause this type of issue? Does it throw the suspension geometry off? I very curious.

Thanks

JDMugenBB1 · 08-05-2005, 01:04 PM

well a camber kit is made to correct camber .... saving your tires. But if you go TOoo positive (more vertical tire) you will have more tire roll on both sides vs. just the outside of the tire... making it feel like jelly, hehe. All ludes (& most cars) come with SOME -- camber in the rear...... I know it's probably a PITA but... I would say... remove your rear camber kits & put the stock ones back on.... see if this will correct your problem; just an idea.

Ceasar