is this really an Sir S-spec Motor/Tranny - Honda Prelude Forum

bhry · 05-14-2004, 11:11 PM

what do you think? Sorry for double posting in General forum, but I need a quick answer.
It is JDM, wipers are reversed in the pic...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll...tem=2478457487

rentien · 05-15-2004, 01:22 AM

the h22a that makes 220bhp, should be red top...
so seeing as thats not true i wouldn't trust the rest of this stuff... i bet it's just a normal h22a, if even that

yohan420 · 05-15-2004, 10:07 AM

e-mail him and get him to take a picture of the block where the stamp is .. also the bar code on the tranny ..make sure its m2b4 so it IS lsd .. if that checks out.. hurray.

is it h22a5 for the type-S ?? ... somebody else should know this .

prelude styl · 05-15-2004, 11:10 AM

well it's over already, but for future reference, it will just say H22A... no number. No JDM engines have numbers after them. And the trans code should be M2A4 I believe for it to be an S-Spec trans.

rentien · 05-15-2004, 02:26 PM

i think if it's the type-s tranny it should say t2we or something like that? the tranny that satan srv got... and i'm getting on my car right now...? the i thought the m2be or whatever was what comes on 5 speed ludes already

Satan_SRV · 05-15-2004, 02:26 PM

wrong people!

The SiR s-spec LSD 5th gen tranny code is M2Z4

M2A4 is a 4th gen non-LSD plain jane tranny just like the USDM M2F4

Edit: Also the ebay listing is a 4th gen prelude, it's a black valve cover and there was no such thing as a 220hp h22a in a fourth gen.

prelude styl · 05-15-2004, 05:29 PM

Bah A, Z whatever.... same cr@p

rentien · 05-15-2004, 07:43 PM

haha sorry for being wrong... good thing you popped in to get it all right satan

DanBreaksLude · 05-17-2004, 02:13 PM

Has anyone ever seen a Type S H22a or Sir-S Spec motor for sale? I did a search on google and couldn't find anything of the sort. Can you use the 5th gen trannys for these motors in a 4th gen? and did they make a 4th gen tranny with an LSD?

Satan_SRV · 05-17-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by DanBreaksLude
Has anyone ever seen a Type S H22a or Sir-S Spec motor for sale? I did a search on google and couldn't find anything of the sort. Can you use the 5th gen trannys for these motors in a 4th gen? and did they make a 4th gen tranny with an LSD?

A type-s block is an SH block except for the pistons. Only an ATTS tranny can bolt to it without fabrication.

SiR s-spec motors are pretty rare you won't see them very often..but they are often advertised as 'type-s' motors when they're not.

DanBreaksLude · 05-18-2004, 05:21 AM

How would one know they came across a genuine Type S motor, or SIR s-pec motor and not just an H22a with a red valve cover slapped on there?

bhry · 05-18-2004, 11:31 AM

exactly! thats what I want to know as well, say that everything described is a blatant lie, how can you tell just by looking.

btw. this motor is claimed to be a JDM H22A 220HP VTEC with JDM M2B4 OEM LSD Tranny by the seller.

bhry · 05-18-2004, 11:33 AM

..also, the original owner of this JDM swapped out, so that is the front clip supposedly in the ebay pic

bhry · 05-18-2004, 11:39 AM

yet again

I am a betting man and got it for 1500 shipping included! who cares what it is, its worth the money most likely.

I will let you know if it one of those "lucky strikes" (bowling wise) AND if not, then it's still a strike, BUT now we'd be playing baseball ...

Satan_SRV · 05-18-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by DanBreaksLude
How would one know they came across a genuine Type S motor, or SIR s-pec motor and not just an H22a with a red valve cover slapped on there?

tranny codes, cam specs, TB sizing, block/head stamps...it would be a combination of several fators that would 'lead you to believe' that it's an s-motor...but it's not really certain there is no specific tell all sign

DanBreaksLude · 05-19-2004, 04:57 AM

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Originally posted by Satan_SRV

tranny codes, cam specs, TB sizing, block/head stamps...it would be a combination of several fators that would 'lead you to believe' that it's an s-motor...but it's not really certain there is no specific tell all sign

So one would have to bring their calipers when checking out the motor and measure the inside diameter of the TB, how do you check the cams without removing the valve cover? If you get the cover off then what? Are the cams stamped? Do you need to put a dial indicator on the cam lobes and turn them? Where would you verify the engine and tranny codes stamped to the engine and tranny once you got the #'s off them?