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Old 08-14-2007, 07:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Really short shifter

Would anyone be interested in a really short shifter. It would be about flush with the dash with the shifter knob off. The 4bidden is half an inch shorter than stock plus the throw is shorter. The pspec sticks out about 2 to 2 1/2 inches about the dash plus the Throw is shorter. Mine are fabricated by me and with the stock shift knob stick up about 1/2 inch above the dash plus the throw is shorter. If anyone is interested in one or to see pics of one then ask and i will post them. My price is $90 for one that includes the bushing.
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sounds to short to me then i couldnt leave my elbow on the armrest and shift
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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this isn't a groupbuy thread is it? if so, i think you might be encroaching locked threads type things.

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why make it even shorter? it provides no performance gain. jw
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i prefer the forbidden. It was enginererd nicely, it has many adjustment points, and it works flawlessly.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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really short shifter = more effort needed to shift through the gears (not to mention more difficult reaching it). If anything, this would be an aesthetic mod at best, as the forbidden already does an excellent job functionally.

Heck I even added a shifter extender (2") to my forbidden and now the shifts are even smoother than without it.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Not to hijack the thread, but are the 4bidden shifters still purchaseable?
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i belive they are,

and yes the shorter the hight the harder the shift all about leverage.

i have a shift knob from a type sh on my forbidden and it raises it about an inch and a half, makes it like butter
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Not to hijack the thread, but are the 4bidden shifters still purchaseable?
yes, i bought 2 or 3 of them a couple months back.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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they compnay that they contracted to make them is also selling them on ebay for a lil bit cheaper
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yes, i bought 2 or 3 of them a couple months back.
Want to sell me one?
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The 4bidden shifter is a great product. I was sad to see mine go.
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Want to sell me one?

I already sold all but one, and im keeping the other one.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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yes they are still for sale..
must say it's a very nice shifter, but why shorten it? i had an s-10 w/ the shifter cut off all the way down to about 6 inches off the floor. it had a very short throw, but shifting down was horrible. you could forget going back to 2nd unless you were almost completely stopped. it had the hurst shifter on it, the wide one that look similar to brass knuckles... it was awesome!
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this isn't a groupbuy thread is it? if so, i think you might be encroaching locked threads type things.

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why make it even shorter? it provides no performance gain. jw
i obviously wasn't going for performance. i was going for unique. To some people thats more important. It totally practical my girlfriend drives it all the time and has no problem. she perfers it shorter cause the throws are only 1 1/2 inch.
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i obviously wasn't going for performance. i was going for unique. To some people thats more important. It totally practical my girlfriend drives it all the time and has no problem. she perfers it shorter cause the throws are only 1 1/2 inch.
the length of the shifter has very little to do with the actual throw of the shift. heck if thats what you believed, why didn't you just cut the stock shifter and saved yourself $100. like someone mentioned, cutting the shift lever shorter actually decreases the amount of leverage you have, so shifting the car shouldn't get easier, but rather harder.
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ok well go back to geometry class because u obviously don't know what your talking about . plus its common sense. the shorter the distance from the pivot point to the knob the shorter the knob has to travel. plus the bracket for the shifter cable is mounted higher. and thats all that forbidden has done and pspec. and of course it will be harder to shift but its not like you have to be arnold schwartzenegger to shift it. i mean its a honda sports car. if you want something thats shifts easy get a caddilac.
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^just because its unique doesn't mean its good.

for the most part, most of us are performance orientated and don't need "unique" functionless equipment.

good for you to like it, but "obviously you don't know the majority of PO POV's"
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ok well go back to geometry class because u obviously don't know what your talking about . plus its common sense. the shorter the distance from the pivot point to the knob the shorter the knob has to travel. plus the bracket for the shifter cable is mounted higher. and thats all that forbidden has done and pspec. and of course it will be harder to shift but its not like you have to be arnold schwartzenegger to shift it. i mean its a honda sports car. if you want something thats shifts easy get a caddilac.
the bracket thats mounted higher is essentially all that matters...the distance from the pivot to the shifter has shortened, thus decreasing the throw...cutting the shifter shorter does NOTHING in terms of the distance traveled in shifting, except for the actual distance your shift knob travels...(the distance the shift knob travels is irrelevant to the actual throw)

Go back to geometry? Maybe you need to save your money on these useless mods and take a physics class. By cutting a shifter shorter, you are decreasing the leverage, thus you must compensate for that via strength. Ever wonder why a door knob is always on the opposite side of the hinges? Do you know what a breaker bar is? Ever wonder why its soo long? Because the longer the bar, the better torque/leverage you have. This results in more force to a particular area.

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Go back to geometry? Maybe you need to save your money on these useless mods and take a physics class.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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actually i would like a taller shifter, like about 1/2 an inch taller than the stock one.
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