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Old 05-16-2004, 11:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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question about tokico

i just changed out some ebay springs on stock shocks with tien springs and tokico blue shocks... now the ride is bouncey as all hell.. i'm wondering is that from the springs or the shocks

i have ground control/koni setup on my 5th gen .. but i was looking to keep the 4th gen on a budget

i see that that kyb agx are very cheap compaired to koni and so my main question is.. will this solve my bounceyness problem?
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you absolutely sure it's your damper that's causing the bounciness because it could be your springs. I have the Tokico HP struts, and they're not bouncy to me .
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah ive got the tokico blues as well...and the ride is close to stock, not bouncy at all....btw im on Sparco lowering springs at 1.5 inches
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hum... i guess i can't compare to stock... and it is kind of an unfair compairison to the ground control/ koni setup..

i just remember when i set the koni to the softest setting.. the ride would be a little bouncey.. and once i set to a full stiff setting.. the car would be rock solid..

the only reason i can't say it's the springs is because of that reason.. changing the shock setting controlled the bounciness... just didn't know if anybody else felt the same way i do about the tokico blues.. not sure how the adj. tokicos are..
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Old 05-18-2004, 07:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i actually have the same problem and i'm trying to figure out wtf is going on...


i also have tokico blues but i have h&r sports.. i know most 3rd gens have this setup and i'm the only person with a bouncy problem...

my dad said i have a 'damper' problem but he didn't mean struts? i have no idea... i need to pick his brain more...... but i'm not sure how the hell to fix that..
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could we get this moved to general b/c this seems like a more general problem that others could help with.. just a suggestion..
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Hmm...in that case it probably is the struts that are too soft for your taste. Honestly, if I were to do it all over again I'd go with adjustable struts rather than non-adjustable.
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Old 05-18-2004, 08:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just ordered my tokico suspension kit. Comes with 1.5" tokico springs and the 5-way adjustable illuminas. I'll let you know how the ride is.
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Old 05-19-2004, 04:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i m bout to put in my suspension on saturday. I have the tokicos illuminas and some skunk2 coilovers, from what people tell me, the ride will be amazing. So i j ust need to find some time and slap em in. i ll keep ya lll posted.
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Hmm...in that case it probably is the struts that are too soft for your taste. Honestly, if I were to do it all over again I'd go with adjustable struts rather than non-adjustable.
i dont' think you understand.. i get a big guy to push on my car and it'll bounce by itself for a second or 2.... i've been in other 3rd gens with the EXACT same setup and theirs are NOTHING like mine.... it's stiff as hell.........

i'm ordering kyb's for the front... if that doesn't work.. i'm going back to stock.... i seem to be cursed when it comes to modifying my car..
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If it's bouncy, it means your shocks aren't dampening enough.
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^^ i've figured that out i just don't understand how i am the only person out of a few 3rd gens that has a bouncy problem.. one of most popular setups is tokico/h&rs....
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maybe it is a defect in the struts... I would call tokico and ask them why its happening and if you could get them to replace them. I doubt its anything with your car.

do you know what the spring rates are for your springs?
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^^ i don't think tokico would replace them at this point.. i put about 3k on the car since they were installed and i got them well over a year and a half ago.. i did my engine swap and they sat around *shrugs*

i'll have to look up the spring rates.. i have no idea off the top of my head what they are..
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i got lazy and called h&r.. they wouldn't give me them but they said they're 25-30% stiffer than stock springs and i shouldn't have a problem matching shocks to fit
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maybe it is a defect in the struts... I would call tokico and ask them why its happening and if you could get them to replace them. I doubt its anything with your car.
That was my next guess as well.

Irene, I can't remember the spring rates on the H&R Sports myself as well, but I know that it should be similar to what I have: Neuspeed Sports. Do you have a lot of body roll?
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^^ i have no idea.. i don't race my car and i've driven it less than 3k miles.... i've driven mostly only highway so i wouldn't have any idea.. i don't fawk around while driving much anymore....
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wow.. this post took off kinda fast

welp.. i decided to ditch the tokico and get koni yellows again.. i know i know.. if i don't do the suspension right.. i'll do it twice.. but from all the great reviews about the blues.. i didn't think i could go wrong

i was goign to go with the kyb agx.. but then i thought to myself again.. what if it's not exactly what i want... and then i'll have to buy the koni and what i want are koni yellows.. guess to have the best i gotta pay for the best

yes i have an issue with the tien coil overs.. not the shocks.. but i really dislike the double lock perch system.. when crap gets into the perch threads.. it's harder then hell to turn them.. that's my only issue

as far as springs go.. i beleive the shocks have more a role in the bounciness.. only cause i played with my gc/koni setup on my 5th gen.. i can set to stiff or i can set to bounce with a twist of a knob.. the gc don't play a part in that aspect at all
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moving the tread to the general section is fine with me... i only thought my tokico problem was a 4th gen thing.. but i guess if 3rd gens are having it to.. what's to say the 5th gens don't have this issue
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I'd still check the shocks (tokico bounciness). See if you have oil leaking out of it, or the residue of that happening.
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