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Old 02-06-2002, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Problems with my H23A SI PLEASE HELP

Im having the worst time of my life with my 93 prelude Si these days. The car is getting its ass kicked by almost anything out there and its bothering the hell out of me. Awhile back I would take out almost anycar with my automatic prelude but these days im getting rocked by civic EX's!!! I just barely beat one right now and it was pulling on me like a mofo!!! Now thats a nightmare guys, Imagine a 2001 civic not only running neck and neck with you but pulling on you like it was an Integra Type R or something. My car was running great awhile ago and what i recently did was add these heavy 17 inch white rims, (called jacknifes) which shouldn't slow me down all that much. I also was told by a mechanic that my valve cover gasket was leaking and needed to be replaced. Do you thing the valve cover gasket can make me lose like 40 HP!!! or something!!!?? or 17 inch rims slow my 0-60 time down by two seconds?!! my car has about a 129,000 miles on it and just had the timing belt replaced awhile ago. I don't think anything is wrong with the tranny because its shifting smootly and everything, but one thing I have noticed is that it shifts to quickly and their is some hesitation when i accelerate on the highway, its seems like its taking forever to pick up speed. I mean not is this sad, but the fact that I have a Apexi Fuel boost controller and a cold air intake, and my car is running like garbage.
I have no idea what the problem is. Please help me someone!

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Old 02-06-2002, 09:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Heavy rims do slow your car down quite a bit. My friend has a 2000 Civic Si, and with his stock rims he was able to squeal his tires really good in second, and sometimes chirp them in third on good pavement, but after he got his Motegi's, it didn't do it at all. They were soooo much heavier than the stock ones(they weighed 44 lbs a piece, including tires). Now, I really don't know that much about automatics, being I drive a five speed, but that's probably part of your problem. I hope you figure it out!! And sorry if I'm completely wrong!!
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Old 02-07-2002, 01:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you're wrong :P

motegi rims is that heavy?!? damn....how many inch rims aret hose? 20"? find that kinda hard to believe but whatever
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Old 02-07-2002, 01:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Did you notice that your car felt sluggish after the timing belt install. If so, maybe whoever changed your timing belt has it on the wrong tooth and your timing is slightly off.

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You have alot of things that add up. First of all you have an auto (big problem) This slows you by almost a second in the quarter compaired to the same exact car that's a manual. Then you added oversized rims which slows you down even more. If you want to be one of the fastest ludes here is what you do. Get a manual tranny, strap it on your motor and you'll gain a second. Then get a turbo and all the neccisary parts to work with it and you'll have the fastest lude in your area unless you live near XES.

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You have alot of things that add up. First of all you have an auto (big problem) This slows you by almost a second in the quarter compaired to the same exact car that's a manual. Then you added oversized rims which slows you down even more. If you want to be one of the fastest ludes here is what you do. Get a manual tranny, strap it on your motor and you'll gain a second. Then get a turbo and all the neccisary parts to work with it and you'll have the fastest lude in your area unless you live near XES.

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he's not drag racing it ....he's just talking about it losing some power and possibility of something happened to the engine...he's not asking on how to get power....and he's talking about just a simple street racing ...
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Hey, if you don't believe me then go weigh them yourself. He has 17" Motegi MR12's in gun metal wrapped in Khumo tires.
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Hey, if you don't believe me then go weigh them yourself. He has 17" Motegi MR12's in gun metal wrapped in Khumo tires.
sorry about that...that was my friend that posted...i'm pretty sure its heavy since its 17inch rims....
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Being able to squeal or chirp your tires really doesn't mean much, except that you have poor traction.

I put on some Kumho 712s, and it's very easy to get wheelspin now. But that doesn't mean my car is any faster or more powerful.
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thanks for responding guys,
I will be adding a T3/T4 hybrid turbo, front mount intercooler and all the bells and whistles in about two months. I just want to solve this little problem im having right know before it tunrs into abigger problem later. Has anybody had their valve cover gasket replaced recently? I want to see if thats whats causing me all the loss of power.
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Anybody know what kind of hp i'll be making with the turbo setup?
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You're going to get a turbo setup and you don't want to replace a valve gasket?

Pop your hood, are you leaking oil all over the place yet? What's your oil level at?
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thanks for responding guys,
I will be adding a T3/T4 hybrid turbo, front mount intercooler and all the bells and whistles in about two months. I just want to solve this little problem im having right know before it tunrs into abigger problem later. Has anybody had their valve cover gasket replaced recently? I want to see if thats whats causing me all the loss of power.
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Anybody know what kind of hp i'll be making with the turbo setup?
I hope your going to change to a manual when you turbo.
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Okay.. from my experience so far.. Here are some of your issues and I hope I can shed some light on them. (I also hope this doesn't sound too "techinical") Anybody.. please correct me if I am inaccurate of any information below.

Weight is always a factor.. but I dont think that is as much a factor as loss of torque.
Simple physics tells us that riding a bike with 12 inch rims can take off easier than the same bike taking off with 18 inch rims. It takes less energy to get the smaller rims rolling to speed. It takes more energy to get the larger rims running the same speed.

You are losing torque and that is what gets you down the line faster.

You say yer getting a turbo for your ride? That will change the whole dynamic of your ride. Once you have done this.. you have added so many new variables to the game. Once you have the turbo installed and running...you will notice when you are driving, the turbo will kick in at a certain rpm and your vtec will also kick in at a certain rpm and you will find that your car will react very differently at these two stages of your powerband. I have heard of some cars acting fine during turbo engagement but they lite up tires when vtec kicks in. Some cars will need larger rims just to keep the wheels on the ground and not lite up uncontrollably. This was a problem with a supercharger for the newer passats.. they HAD to put larger rims on the thing just to keep from peeling out off the line. (but superchargers are another story)

If you plan on turbo'n yer ride... you are going to need to make sure and keep a close eye on your engine. Leaving leaky VC gaskets unfixed is not an option once you start adding such things as a turbo. A leaky VC gasket doesn't necessarily drain yer car of power, but it does cause oil leaking in a car that is now running ALOT hotter than before. Keeping an eye under the hood is a must if you wanna keep it running.. hehe. More guages, more maintenance.

Every person's car becomes a new experiment when modding gets started. Different parts will react differently when paired up with other parts and the end result is alot of tweaking and tuning and reasoning with your car to get the most out of it.

I envy you bro... I do the study, but I can't put it to practice on my lude.. (starting a family = no cash) Then again.. (dreaming of late nites toiling as to why my car aint pulling low 12's when it should).. hmm.. naw.. I still envy ya. hehe

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