New shortshifter out for the 4th gen - Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com
Honda Prelude Forum Honda Prelude Forum Header Right
» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Go Back   Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fourth Gen Prelude Discussion
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Mark Forums Read Advertise

PreludeOnline.com is the premier Honda Prelude Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-06-2003, 04:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Boeing Engineer
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 1,027
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
New shortshifter out for the 4th gen

Hey guys,

I am not sure if anyone has posted this yet but I just saw it on e-bay. Looks like 4bidden got copied.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33736

It does look like a quality piece
__________________
Jason
Zimmlude is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-06-2003, 07:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Fairfax, VA (Home) Daytona Beach, FL (College)
Posts: 778
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
am i reading that right, it comes with knob and boot, for 100 bucks.... hmmm i might have to give it a try.
__________________
Brandon
Captain - my other car has two engines
1993 Prelude Si (JDM H22A with automatic to 5spd Swap)
My white 93 Vtec
AIM: Mach30SiR
concLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 07:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
Supporting Member
pretending to drive...
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Verona, NJ
Posts: 466
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It won't go for $100 - he sells them for ~$200 on his web-site - it's a lot of additional money for just a leather boot & crappy knob...
luder94si is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 08:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
Supporting Member
Double Eeww Tee Eff!?
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 964
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I don't know though....it's pretty tempting.......looks like he might give 4bidden a run for his money.
__________________
96 Prelude Si
PRelude787 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 09:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
Supporting Member
The S Driver
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 109
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
this guy made this a while bak....its made out of aluminum and u can only use his knob...nothing like 4biddens
__________________
No Rice Please!
"The rear wing is so big...is the car supposed to fly?"-Takumi(Initial D)

RED AND BLACK...BASE ATTACK
drelude95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 11:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
Supporting Member
The one and only.
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,244
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
You HAVE to use his boot and knob, I called him on this, and asked some questions (in a bit of a smartasses manner) and he never replied, so he can suck it. I'd much rather have my own choice of shift boot and knob, than what HE thinks looks good. If/when I get a short shifter, I'm getting 4bidden's.
__________________
Gone, but not forgotten...rest in peace Jon.
cantdrive55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 01:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: san jose, ca
Posts: 143
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i dont think this shifter on ebay lets you have three different option settings (stock/street/race) like forbidden's does. i have forbiddens and it is great !
preeluder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 02:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 3,637
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
that knob looks kinda nice......id buy from 4bidden first, he has a good rep
jsmooney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 02:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
Supporting Member
The one and only.
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,244
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
By the way, everyone, forbidden and 4bidden are 2 separate people. 4bidden makes the shifter, not forbidden.
__________________
Gone, but not forgotten...rest in peace Jon.
cantdrive55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 02:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 3,285
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Guys.....this guy is a total tool. He's the main reason why I even started making mine. Its quite a story but in the end he has no knowledge of what he does.....

Any cable shifted Honda benefits from a HEAVIER lever to be able to help push the car into the next gear. His units are ALUMINUM....thats probably the worst material you could ever make our shifters out of. Sure, aluminum is a more expensive material than I make mine out of, but its also cheaper to CNC, and like I mentioned, will NOT help with the shifter feel at ALL!

The choice is yours, this guy is obviously struggling so I'll let him get away with putting my name in his ebay title (lol), but think about the benefits of the weight of the lever and you should realize this guy has no idea what hes doing.
__________________
-Jeremy | Forbidden Motorsports

Yes....I'm back on PO!
4bidden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 03:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 3,285
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Ouch....looks like his laser etching f'd up on these knobs.....the line between 3/4 and 5/r is a little thick, dont ya think?

__________________
-Jeremy | Forbidden Motorsports

Yes....I'm back on PO!
4bidden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 03:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 58
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
well obviously as just clarified it was made before the 4bidden one so its not some cheap copy. but no its not good either. this is his 2nd version. the first was not all that good and the neutral position was very strange. thats why I went with the 4bidden. this one may be better but yea I would like to choose my own knob and boot. also yes the 3 positions are niceon the 4bidden, but do you change them? I know I haven't and probably never will. about the etching, I havent looked at my stock knob in a long time, but I think it had a thicker line there like that.
93accordEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 03:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 3,285
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
About the positions....it serves two purposes. The first has to do with making the shifter applicable for all the cars. You CANNOT use the same setting on every car and get the same results, its just not possible due to the differences between the Accord and Prelude. The second is to allow people to put it how THEY like it and adjust it to the condition of their transmission. If your tranny isnt in the best of shape or your fluid is old or something you might have problems with my top setting, so you can move it down to the middle. Thats the point of the settings.
__________________
-Jeremy | Forbidden Motorsports

Yes....I'm back on PO!
4bidden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 04:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
New Boeing Engineer
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 1,027
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I wasn't saying it was better or worse. I wouldn't trade my shifter for anything, I just thought it was interesting.
__________________
Jason
Zimmlude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 04:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 3,285
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It is interesting......

that he thinks lighter is better
that he uses my name in his ebay title
that you have to use his knob and boot


Sorry, but this thread was the first one I saw today when I woke up....lol.
__________________
-Jeremy | Forbidden Motorsports

Yes....I'm back on PO!
4bidden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 08:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: edmonds, wa car:93 GBP Si-VTEC
Posts: 682
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
man i think his setup looks great. i like the knob, and the boot is really nice(how many of us have changed for aftermarket shift boots?). i have driven 2 cars with 4biddens shifter, and i dont like it at all. it is super notchy, but it looks well made to me. i am using a dc sports adapter knock off, and i shortened the shifter a bit and it feels better than 4 biddens, for about 20 bucks. it is the same as forbiddens minus the adjustability. i dunno, i just dont see how its worth all that money...
Quote:
Originally posted by 4bidden
Ouch....looks like his laser etching f'd up on these knobs.....the line between 3/4 and 5/r is a little thick, dont ya think?

its supposed to be that way, thats how it is stock....sheesh you guys are rough!
marsh
__________________
-Marshall-

ludeconduct.com northwest prelude owners group
my setup
my photography website

Last edited by marshdoggg; 09-06-2003 at 08:30 PM.
marshdoggg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 12:58 AM   #17 (permalink)
bsi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: escondido,CA
Posts: 927
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by marshdoggg
man i think his setup looks great. i like the knob, and the boot is really nice(how many of us have changed for aftermarket shift boots?). i have driven 2 cars with 4biddens shifter, and i dont like it at all. it is super notchy, but it looks well made to me. i am using a dc sports adapter knock off, and i shortened the shifter a bit and it feels better than 4 biddens, for about 20 bucks. it is the same as forbiddens minus the adjustability. i dunno, i just dont see how its worth all that money...

its supposed to be that way, thats how it is stock....sheesh you guys are rough!
marsh
maybe the ones you drove were on a seeting that you werent comfortable with? and 5th-rev. is not like that at all.... maybe if it was a six speed the bars could go off into space like that but if you look at the stock knob, all the lines add up
__________________
bsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 05:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The big Sand box in the Middle east(Iraq, Afghanistan).
Posts: 1,166
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
You don't have to use his knob if you don't want to. The shifter has the same threads as the stock honda knob. I currently have this thing in my car. The leather is nice quality, and if you ever felt the need to change the boot color, you could easily remove the aluminum piece from the boot, and have it sewn into a new boot. I am using a new Style heavy Greddy shift knob on mine and it fits great.

You guys have some misconceptions about the weight of the shifter helping with the shift. This has normally been true for most all VW and Audi cable shifters, but not on Hondas. In order to really get the best shift a Heavier knob is normally used on a Honda. If you ever get a chance to look into a Honda that is used for say the Speedvision World challenge, they use a nice Aluminum shifter with a heavy knob. If you have ever seen a VW shifter, most all of them have a counter weight on the bottom of the shift lever, Hondas lack this becuase a Heavy shifter actually isn't needed. In a Honda the knob acts like a counter weight on top to help push/pull the cable (which is why you feel the most improvement in a shift by using a heavier knob. If you counter balanced the shifter with a heavier material and used a heavier knob, then theoretically you cancel each of them out. I used to have a C's shifter and in comparison between the 2 the shift feels Exactly the same. The 4Bidden shifter looks nice as well, (I would have bought one, but they were all out of this run) And I am sure that the 3 levels of adjustment are a nice option, but I wouldn't knock this guys stuff unless you have actually tried it. Pretty nice stuff, nice machine work, great material, comes with a nice boot, and knob (I prefer a heavier knob), but nice just the same. There are pros and cons to any product out there, but I wouldn't resort to calling a guy a "Tool" becuase you don't like his product.
__________________
WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that motorcycle riding will cause swelling of the testicles, shrinkage of the brain and severe trauma to the ego.

Last edited by Dr. James; 09-07-2003 at 05:53 PM.
Dr. James is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 06:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
Supporting Member
Unregistered
 
G_Loc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Miami, Fl
Posts: 4,032
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
wow. the build quality on it looks awesome, but that one doesn't seem to have the large following of luders as 4bidden's.

4bidden, i have yours and i love it!

i have more trust in someone who is active within the prelude community and doesnt have to rely on the popularity of someone else's product to promote their own.
__________________
LS2 > H22

458 RWHP / 422 ft/lbs RWTQ
G_Loc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 07:48 PM   #20 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: edmonds, wa car:93 GBP Si-VTEC
Posts: 682
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by bsi


maybe the ones you drove were on a seeting that you werent comfortable with? and 5th-rev. is not like that at all.... maybe if it was a six speed the bars could go off into space like that but if you look at the stock knob, all the lines add up
ummmm no. this is an oem honda knob here...

marsh
ps whats a seeting?
__________________
-Marshall-

ludeconduct.com northwest prelude owners group
my setup
my photography website
marshdoggg is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fourth Gen Prelude Discussion


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:39 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2