NEW PROBLEM! :-) - Water coming from somwhere IN THE CAR.
Ok, so I haven't driven the prelude around in a few weeks beacuse of the relay problem I had. But the last few days i've been taking it out again and I find that everytime I turn, theres a massive amount of water
pouring onto my feet, (the floor) of the car.
I've come to the conclusion that its either massive amounts of condensation from the AC, OR some stripping on my windshiled that seems to be coming off, letting water in---
Anyone have any experience with this?
- the water also comes out on the passenger side, but this is the driver's side, the circled area is where i THINK the water is coming from.
-- this is a pic of the weather stripping coming out---
I dont know if under that leads to under hood or the interior compartment of the car, that would explain where the water would be going if its coming in.
The drain hose on the evaporator may be clogged so the condensation is overflowing or the heater core is leaking whatever water it had accumulated inside from the last time you used it. The heater core is in the center of the car, so that may be it... When was the last time you used the heater? If you use the heater, is the water that leaks out warm?
mine have the same weather strip problem, but no water to the inside...
I glued it with uhu power (the yellow one)... and it havent get out again... you have to remove it, add the glue and mantain pressure...
for the water leak... for me sounds like the heater have a break... how... maybe it get clogged and because of the pressure...
when I do the jdm cc conversion, I removed the heater put some water in to clean it, at first was dirty... then clean... the inlet hose was dirty almost/or clogged (I broke that, so it will be replaced)... after that i left all the hoses unconnected fill the radiator and only the water comes from the engine from the outlet hose of the heater... I opened and closed the valve and nothing
after a time I remove the inlet hose from the engine to the valve and add water to that only... and then a cream color thing came out and it become unclogged.
I've come to the conclusion that its either massive amounts of condensation from the AC, OR some stripping on my windshiled that seems to be coming off, letting water in---
I really dont know a lot of that... but if it was from the AC it should remain only in the passenger side at least the most, the evaporator have a hole to let the water come out...
You can chek after a while with the AC on if the car drops little amounts of water under the car... to see if that hole is not clogged...
and the heater valve close and opened... if is opened (all heat) it may throw more water from there... if its close (all cold) its suposed to stop the water... but it can go in "reverse" and may throw less water
the condenser... evaporator drain pipe should be under the hood... like under the fuel filter (near the fuse box) almost in the ground.. really I dont know... I will say and maybe is the best... remove the evaporator, open it, clean it, and clean the drain pipe...
if you will do that.. and will add water to clean the drain pipe be careful with the ecu
the condenser... evaporator drain pipe should be under the hood... like under the fuel filter (near the fuse box) almost in the ground.. really I dont know... I will say and maybe is the best... remove the evaporator, open it, clean it, and clean the drain pipe...
if you will do that.. and will add water to clean the drain pipe be careful with the ecu
if this is under the hood, what does it have to do with water on the interior tho?
if this is under the hood, what does it have to do with water on the interior tho?
the drain pipe goes under the hood, the connection between the drain pipe and the evaporator is inside the car, that if it is clogged the water should go inside the car...
but if the water is comming from the heater I think that the problem is with the heater...
the evap. and heater are connected making like a "-^-" (the connection is made to a "upper point"). If you have water in the evap it should remain there because the core is lower than the connection or spilled the most of them in the passenger side because of its location.
the same should happen to the heater, but it have vents for both sides, so the water should go for both sides (driver and passenger).
Have you checked your sunroof drain tubes for blockage? On the 5th gen, there is a tube running down each A (front) and C (rear) pillar. If they get blocked, the water might overflow into the interior. I imagine that the setup is the same for the 4th gen.
On my 5th gen, the rear drain tubes were blocked at the tip. I just looked under the car, found where they exited the body, and squeezed until the water was free to flow out.
EDIT - Here, I found the 4th gen diagram. Look at items 4 and 7. They will come out under the car somewhere.
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ya the bolt got stuck and broke off he said it crossed thred and thays why they got a replacement engine so is there a why to fis it are do i need a new crank
Have you checked your sunroof drain tubes for blockage? On the 5th gen, there is a tube running down each A (front) and C (rear) pillar. If they get blocked, the water might overflow into the interior. I imagine that the setup is the same for the 4th gen.
On my 5th gen, the rear drain tubes were blocked at the tip. I just looked under the car, found where they exited the body, and squeezed until the water was free to flow out.
EDIT - Here, I found the 4th gen diagram. Look at items 4 and 7. They will come out under the car somewhere.
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the leak though is coming fromt he center console under the vents all the way to the front by the gas pedal and foot well. not so much so from the pillars. but no harm in checking those tubes too.
can anyone find me one of these exploded diagrams for the AC system so that I can find that condenser tube and check it for blockage?
The tube for the evaporator is probably under the car, near the firewall. I'm far away from my Helm's so I can't post a diagram.
Have you tried turning on the heater and see if more water leaks out? The drain tube is pretty low in the chassis and even if it were blocked, the water shouldn't flood the center console like that. Then again the, whole evaporator could be completely flooded and causing the mess. Does the AC blow cold and evenly out of the driver and passenger side?
about the sunroof tubes... i dont think it will be, those tubes go to some site near the tires... but i think I jave a problem with them, in rainy days my trunk gets like a pool
The tube for the evaporator is probably under the car, near the firewall. I'm far away from my Helm's so I can't post a diagram.
Have you tried turning on the heater and see if more water leaks out? The drain tube is pretty low in the chassis and even if it were blocked, the water shouldn't flood the center console like that. Then again the, whole evaporator could be completely flooded and causing the mess. Does the AC blow cold and evenly out of the driver and passenger side?
The heater turns on and blows hot and Ic an't tell if it leaks water, it doesn't leak outside, and the water doesn't spill out onto the carpet unless I'm turning left or right.
i got out under the center console yesterday and I couldn't really see a drain tube from that section of stuff to the outter body of the car. I'm guessing i'd have to do some major deconstruction to get to it.
I got UNDER the car and I found two tubes that look like it could be the drain tube, but I dont know how to even go about cleaning it.
Should I get some pipe cleaners? blow compressed air? how do I go about cleaning out those tubes? (assuming that either of them is what I'm looking for in teh first place)
I need some real like step by step how to type help here b eacuse having looked at those two areas I just dont even know what my next step should be.
Also I left the car running in my garage with the AC on full blast for a few minutes yesteardy and there was barely like 1 or 2 dropps of water.
I know with my S2000 if i left it on like that with the AC there'd be a huge puddle.
So I'm fairly confident that thats where this is coming from, but I have no idea how to go about starting to fix the problem.
To the poster above that suggested the sunroof drain, I really apprecaite it but it doesn't seem to be my problem. thanks for doing all that work to find the diagrams and stuff for me though :-)
One of the tubes should be from the evap canister (fuel / emissions system related) in the engine bay and the other may be the evaporator drain tube. Did you try looking for a wet tube under the car after you left the car running?
As for cleaning, I've cleaned out the sunroof drain tubes using a hanger with a bent tip. I don't know how thick the evaporator drain tube is, but you can probably use a similar method. Pipe cleaners should work provided they are long enough for the job.
about the sunroof tubes... i dont think it will be, those tubes go to some site near the tires... but i think I jave a problem with them, in rainy days my trunk gets like a pool
You're right...I didn't realize the leak was coming from the center console. Nevermind my suggestion! It definitely sounds like an AC or similar issue.
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Originally Posted by gatewayjoe
ya the bolt got stuck and broke off he said it crossed thred and thays why they got a replacement engine so is there a why to fis it are do i need a new crank
I haven't been able to clean the evaporator tube. I can't really get up in there. i'm afraid the hanger will poke a hole in the tube, and the pipe cleaners aren't strong enough to go through the tube.
I have narrowed the water down to coming from the foot well vents. and the hotter the summer gets and the more the AC runs the more the water pours out. whenever i make a left turn i hear the water like enter the fan, its crazy sounds like the car is about to flood.
so I gotta take it some place to get it taken care of soon unless someone can suggest a better way to clean that rubber tube.
see if they are low or the can empty... if they get low "fast" probably is because a heater problem
if they stay normal, then should be the drain pipe of the evaporator, an evaporator problem (maybe the valve is getting clogged)
i dont know a lot about ac, maybe someone with more experience can tell you about it.
you have checked if it drains water under the car (passenger side) after turning the ac for a couple of mins?
After driving with the AC on, put your car on ramps and look for the tube. I forgot to check my Helms for a diagram.
You won't cause any damage to the tube if you bent the end of the hanger. Well, as long as you don't get it far enough up there to hit and puncture the evaporator
see if they are low or the can empty... if they get low "fast" probably is because a heater problem
if they stay normal, then should be the drain pipe of the evaporator, an evaporator problem (maybe the valve is getting clogged)
i dont know a lot about ac, maybe someone with more experience can tell you about it.
you have checked if it drains water under the car (passenger side) after turning the ac for a couple of mins?
the only thing that keeps getting low fast, is the brake fluid. and i dont think its a heater problem, this only happens with the A/C
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-- this is a pic of the weather stripping coming out--- 
It definitely sounds like an AC or similar issue.
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