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Old 08-13-2002, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need your advice...

Heres my situation, I bought my car roughly a month or so ago.. Now I bought it out of province. I live in Alberta, Canada, and here SRVs run around 15-18 thousand.... In places like BC, they run a bit cheaper cause they are more popular, so I bought my car out of Vancouver, for 10 thousand.

Now to get the car to my hometown, Calgary, I drove the car all the way from Vancouver to Calgary, which is a good 2 day trip, roughly 18 hours of driving I think. Car made it to Calgary NO PROBLEMS....

Now I got the car in Calgary, second day I had it in Calgary, I noticed this slight knock between 3-4k RPM, I thought oh maybe it just needs oil from the long trip to Calgary, check the oil its fine.

3rd day the knock is worse, almost from 2-5k RPMS.... Now Im getting worried. I was hardly driving the car, so i wasn't being hard on it...

4th day, same knock as first, day but I notice the car is excessively sluggish, no power at all.... I come up to a stop light and down shift, to slow down, soon as I down into second, the engine cuts out..... I think oh great.... Pop it into nuetral and turn the key as I coast down the road, engines turns over, fine, but I can hear it almost grinding as it sits at 500 rpm....

At this point I coasted it off the road , close to a turning meadian...

I got the car towed back to my uncles shop where it sat for a couple days....

My dad is a self learning mechanic, throughout his years from growing up he has been working on cars, since he can remember. Hes rebuilt tons of engines, knows what hes doing...

Now at my uncles shop we pulled the bottom end off, and took a look at the damage..... the 2nd cycl rod bearing, had spun and completely mashed itself into the other bearing, as the rod rode, the crank it pounded it into the other bearing.... While it was pounding it, it slowly shaved the crank some, making it uneven.

Now, we looked at this, and assed the situation, figuring we might be able to make the car somewhat driveable, if we polish up the crank, and put on an oversized bearing, to get rid of the slop that was made from the undersized crank...

After polishing it up and replacing all the bearings... we put it back together... Thinking the car should be driveable till we can either bring up more money to replace the entire engine or rebuild it..... So we crank it over, and start the car, let it run for about 30 min to get the oil running through it again.....

So we take it for a spin, but the knock is still present between 3-4k RPM.... Signs that the bearing is still sloppy on the crank, and will pound it out again.....

I took the car to my storage lot and it has sat there for roughly a month now... and here I am....

When we purchased the car, it ran beatifully, no problems... we either had **** luck or the guy stuck in transmission fluid into the oil, to hide the knock from us....

I have been researcing sites on buying a entirely new JDM H22a, on where to find the best price, and I figured I didnt' want to order out of the US due to the fact of customs and dutys, I would be paying out the ass to get it shipped here.... So I looked for somewhere local.... I found someone but turns out they want... 2800 for just the motor, and 4500 for the complete swap...

I say screw that, I can rebuild the engine for less.

Now this is where I come to you guys....

Come Sept 1st, my engine is going to be ripped out and taken fully apart to inspect it further to make sure, I don't have belt valves, or damaged cycl walls, or bent rods.... Anything like that...

But most likely I am going to be replacing..... Entire Valve train.... Rods, Piston Heads, Bearings, and the crank....


Any experts out there that can give me some reference to some good place to look for these items, or what kinda prices Im looking, or what to get...


I am lookin at probably getting Type S Pistons, for the 11 compression ratio..... Most likely going to port and polish the head, when I have it apart, etc etc.....

Any suggestion would greatly be appreciated.
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Old 08-13-2002, 09:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dude considering you on;y paid $10k...this is a perfect opportunity to do some excellent rebuild work.

Best no sleeved setup:

Type-S/Euro-R Pistons
Lighter Aftermarket Rod (like Eagle)
Fully balanced crank.
p&p
ported and port matched intake manifold
multi angle valve job
Hondata Gasket
Crower Stage 2 cams? go with something better than Type-s cams
*Also you could shave/mill the head to get to 11.5:1 or higher compression hat would be nice...
Stainless steel valves (Skunk2, Portflow)
Bronze valve guides
Reprogrammed ECU/Hondata or some measure of fuel management


It will cost you, but it will smoke any SR-V that cost 15-18k and probably end up costing you less. Just make sure the mechanic knows what he's doing...

You might want to talk to Howard at Redlyne http://www.redlyne.com he's from Calgary and could probably point you in the right direction. He used to have an SR-V as well, he may still have it and some parts for sale.

Good Luck
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Would the block be reliablable under that much compression?

I actually think redlyne suggested buy another engine, isntead of rebuilding, but Im lookin at about 2 grand to spend on rebuilding it.
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you can find h22as for less than 2500. you have a tranny you have the wiring you have the axels. you should be able to get an incomplete swap for under $2K. and since you got an uncle and father as techs. the install would be cheap if not free. granted having a built h22 would be nice, but it is going to get expensive.
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J Spec auto, out of montreal, quoted me at 2350 CDN shipped to my doorstep...... Thats motor only shipping included...


A local shop wanted 2800 for some reason, I have no idea why.
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Would the block be reliablable under that much compression?

I actually think redlyne suggested buy another engine, isntead of rebuilding, but Im lookin at about 2 grand to spend on rebuilding it.
Even if you just leave it at 11:1 with type-s it's perfectly reliable many people run them. It's N/A, it's reliable.

You could buy a new engine, but let's just say you're not going to have too many opportunities to tear open the engine...unless you've got money coming out of your ass. Do it once and you won't regret it...what good is another used engine gonna do you? Is it a JDM engine at least? (10.6:1 CR)
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Thats very true, My dad wants to rebuild, at first I didn't want to do that due to the fact, of the amount of more time its going to take...... But in the long run I know it'll be better, and I know what I will have.


I plan to own this car for MANY MANY years, so I want to do it right.


Of everything you listed, what you think would be the cost of that?

I am not really worried about it, but I do want to be able to drive my car sometime soon :P
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