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Old 08-08-2011, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys! new to the lude forums, and new to the lude. is there any possible way to get lower gear ratios aside from getting a F transmission? is there any way to get a lower final drive ratio with the diff? thanks!

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What Prelude do you have?
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93 Si 2.3L 5-speed
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the easiest way is to swap a M2L5 tranny that has longer gears. Also if you know someone who is a master in transmissions, they can tune the gears in your existing transmission. I hope someone here might know.

also check this link for ratios: Prelude/H-series Transmission Codes and Ratios master-list - Honda-Tech
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just a quick question. why would you want longer gears? better gas mileage?
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it's believed to produce very good high end on top speeds as far as I can remember. At least that's what I have heard.
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it's believed to produce very good high end on top speeds as far as I can remember. At least that's what I have heard.

well yeah that is true but its only a factor if you are putting down power throught the entire gear/rpm range. i hated my accords stock tranny ratios.
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^ yeah! and it looks like the OP has H22 or H23 motor, so he should be able to get that power no problem.
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id say it would have to be atleast semi built cause other wise getting longer gears even if he has a h23 or h22 hed be making his car slower. thats why i also put maybe just for fuel mileage lol.
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^ yes that makes sense then. I didn't know that H series motors won't have high enough output to make longer gears effective.
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I come from, and still have, a 97 wrangler that runs about 1900 rpm at 75mph. so 4000 rpm at 80 in my lude seems kinda high. math says it tops at 130 MPH. if I build the engine (keeping it naturally aspirated) I figure I can make up the power loss from longer gears. ideas? thoughts?
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4000 at 80 is high. im usually at 3400-3500 going 80. by you saying your that high in the rpms im going to assume you have a auto right? and are you running a h22 or h23?
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Tall gears are only good for gas mileage, acceleration wise it sucks big time and you think that by doing math on paper that it will help you reach some stupid high top speed like 180mph but it won't. I had the trans you had and I thought it wasn't aggressive enough, it only serves to collect dust.

Acceleration beats top speed any day, way more fun.

Highly doubt anyone makes a lower final drive that will make your gears taller as you're like the only person looking to do this, no market for someone to want to make it.
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I thought 4000 was a bit high too... it's a H23 with a 5 speed manual. and I appreciate your concern for my 0-60 time and my 180 MPH top speed, but all I want is 500-1000 rpm off my 80 MPH cruising speed. so just a couple of tenths off the final drive, not whole numbers. that's what the LS1 is for.
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I reached over 140 mph in my automatic F22A1 Prelude. When I was at 140, there was no shake, no rattle, very smooth coast on the thruway at low rpm's.

If the speedometer said 160, I probably would have reached that as well.

Minilo is right, for the most part acceleration beats top speed any day and yeah it's more fun, but on that day, I doubt anything would beat the fun I had reaching those stupendous top speeds.
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Well I dunno why you're asking about this then OP, there is a FAQ which has all the ratios for H and F transmissions, get to reading.

Dan, the speedometer and tachometer are incredibly inaccurate at those speeds/rpms, my tach will say 8200+ when the shift light goes off set by the ECU which is 7900 in actuality.
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^ oh werd?


btw, i just noticed how your sig says you have Euro R tranny. sic!
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