I just recently reverted back to my stock springs, and some KYB AGX struts and man is this thing up in the air! I have compared the ride height to a stock Si and it's definitely higher. Noticeably higher. I didn't do the work myself, I had a reputable shop do it and even they said it looked too high. Suggestions?
*the reason I have returned to stock is all the suspension problems caused by various setups.
Setup #1 - When I bought the car it had eBay adjustable coilovers and blown stock shocks. The alignment was terrible and it bounced like a basketball.
Setup #2 - KYB AGX struts and Neuspeed Sport Springs. Looked way to low and bottomed out all the time. I couldn't even get 1 straight finger between the front tire and the wheel well. I couldn't hit a pebble without the control arms smacking into the frame. Again, a horrible alignment issue. Did not have the reputable shop do this swap and "repair". Will not go back to them and let's leave it at that.
Setup #3 - KYB AGX struts and stock springs. Alignment perfect and the ride is smooth and silky. I know I am used to seeing it lowered, but I have never seen any Prelude sit this high. Any reasoning or suggestions?
I like the very slightly lowered look (think BMW 3 series) but don't want to be replacing control arms, tie rods, ect. every 6 months. At this point I've spent almost 2k in parts and labor. If I do anything at this point it need to be right and finished. Heck, with all the money I've spent on this car, I could have had a significant portion of money towards a newer car or bought the TEIN package. Ugh
Hey Guys, I posted a similar question about raising my new purchase 1993 Prelude, it has been lowered, where can I find these replacement parts you guys are talking about? I will drive this car over 50 miles each day, and I want the car to last! -- Jon
i have stock springs for sale for the 4th gen. I pulled em off my car around 120k miles. $50 + shipping. Let me know if u want em.
My tokico spring/shock combo sits too low compared to other 4th gens i've seen with the same kit on em. I'd rather have a perfect alignment than have my car this close to the ground.
An alignment within spec > driving low and tearing up tires
I don't think you need to replace all those things if you aren't slammed.
I already have replaced all those things unfortunately...
And I am still not happy with the look. I am tempted to try the Neuspeed sport springs with the KYB's and see what happens, but if I have to return it to stock yet again I am going to be out another $1,000.
And yes I am able to do it myself, I just really, really don't have the time.
An alignment within spec > driving low and tearing up tires
And THIS is my problem, I would like to have the lowered look and yet still ride like a mostly normal car.
But there is the problem, I can't seem to even get to the stock ride height. Why? Is this some crazy elusive point that nobody can reach? I either ride like and SUV, or a slammed showcar. Can't I get to a nice middle ground?
I have...
eBay adjustable coilovers
Neuspeed Sport Spring
Stock Springs
KYB AGX Struts
I hate to spend any more money on this car, but it's now almost like I have to prove I can get it to be what I want.
Wait, if you have adjustable coilovers, then why can't you just get them to the height you want? Either something is grossly wrong or you're doing it wrong.
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Wait, if you have adjustable coilovers, then why can't you just get them to the height you want? Either something is grossly wrong or you're doing it wrong.
Okay, maybe I didn't explain very well. I had the adjustable coilovers on the car, with the stock struts...
The struts were blown and I knew the coilovers were just cheap eBay coilovers and really stiff so when I changed out the struts I changed the springs too.
Right now the car has stock springs and KYB AGX struts.
In the garage in a box I have both the eBay adjustable coilovers and the Neuspeed sport springs.
*The combinations in the first post are what has been on the car at some point during my ownership.
lay the coilover sleeve with the spring on it next to the lowering spring u have, and see what it looks like
something like this. These sat lower than the skunk2 springs i had for a while
coilovers just need adjusted until you find a comfortable height. There are plenty of spring option out there that lower the car nicely without any problems...
Tein S-Techs ~ 1.3/1.5 inch drop
H&R Sport ~ 1.4/1.5 inch drop
Neuspeed Sport
and various other spring option lower the car only 1.5 inches or so (very comfortable height)
But if you have coilover set, just use it with the KYBs. Or get Tein S-techs or something.
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There are plenty of spring option out there that lower the car nicely without any problems...
Tein S-Techs ~ 1.3/1.5 inch drop
H&R Sport ~ 1.4/1.5 inch drop Neuspeed Sportand various other spring option lower the car only 1.5 inches or so (very comfortable height)
But if you have coilover set, just use it with the KYBs. Or get Tein S-techs or something.
I highlighted the Neuspeed Sport springs, because when I had those on the car, it was slammed in the front. The back was fine, but the front was so low there wasn't any gap, the front wheels looked almost tucked? Any idea why?
Wait, if you have adjustable coilovers, then why can't you just get them to the height you want? Either something is grossly wrong or you're doing it wrong.
I had adjustable coilovers they are not on the car now. Mostly I just took them off and threw them in a box. They're cheap eBay coilovers and really, really stiff. I would prefer not to use those again.
I highlighted the Neuspeed Sport springs, because when I had those on the car, it was slammed in the front. The back was fine, but the front was so low there wasn't any gap, the front wheels looked almost tucked? Any idea why?
maybe you had the rear springs on the front. Rear springs have lower spring rate and would definitely show a more drastic drop if installed on the front.
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Something is definitely up. I had neuspeed sport springs with kybs (now koni's) and I had a slight drop but not that bad. 2 fingers I think. You'd have to take the shock/springs apart and examine everything to find out what the issue is.
As for alignment, a small drop like 1.5 inches shouldn't affect things much. It'll increase your negative camber slightly but that's better for handling. It also won't cause much more tire wear. Just make sure you set your toe to 0 all around. Toe is often a bigger cause of tire wear.
Something is definitely up. I had neuspeed sport springs with kybs (now koni's) and I had a slight drop but not that bad. 2 fingers I think. You'd have to take the shock/springs apart and examine everything to find out what the issue is.
As for alignment, a small drop like 1.5 inches shouldn't affect things much. It'll increase your negative camber slightly but that's better for handling. It also won't cause much more tire wear. Just make sure you set your toe to 0 all around. Toe is often a bigger cause of tire wear.
but you should always get an alignment after you disassemble/reassemble suspension, etc.
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