I just got my Legend calipers and VTEC rotors and the calipers didn't come with the bracket, there was a post not long ago about someone using his stock bracket but that was on a 5th gen, since I have a Si with the smaller rotors I was wondering if I could still use my stock bracket or do I need at least some VTEC bracket?
the stock bracket should be the same. My NSX calipers used the same mounting points as the stock SI calipers. I'm not positive on this but I think it will work.
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it will work, they bolt right on. i did this same swap, and the install is the same as the stockers. you can switch the right for the left and vice versa in order to make it easier to bleed them (bleeder valve is then on top of caliper), but i chose not to, and havent had any probs. your gonna love em!
marsh
No.. you can't use your stock brackets, you need some sort of Vtec bracket whether it be 4th gen, 5th gen, or the legend bracket you need one of them. You can try putting your bracket on there, but you'll soon realize it's not going to do anything.
And no, you cannot swap them visa versa for easier bleeding. The calipers are made to go on their respective sides because of the way the psitons are placed. The smaller piston MUST be the leading piston. When you switch sides, you're making the larger piston the leading one and will make your pads wear unevenly, and decrease braking efficiancy.
Originally posted by prelude styl No.. you can't use your stock brackets, you need some sort of Vtec bracket whether it be 4th gen, 5th gen, or the legend bracket you need one of them. You can try putting your bracket on there, but you'll soon realize it's not going to do anything.
That's what I thought. So I need 4th gen VTEC, 5th gen or Legend bracket right?
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And no, you cannot swap them visa versa for easier bleeding. The calipers are made to go on their respective sides because of the way the psitons are placed. The smaller piston MUST be the leading piston. When you switch sides, you're making the larger piston the leading one and will make your pads wear unevenly, and decrease braking efficiancy.
Thanks I was wondering that. Though when you say leading piston, you mean the one that's gonna be on the bottom? I haven't even checked which way they go I just opened the box to see if they were the right caliper and to get a quick look.
Originally posted by marshdoggg it will work, they bolt right on. i did this same swap, and the install is the same as the stockers. you can switch the right for the left and vice versa in order to make it easier to bleed them (bleeder valve is then on top of caliper), but i chose not to, and havent had any probs. your gonna love em!
marsh
So you're saying you used the stock Si caliper bracket? Wouldn't the Si bracket be in the way of the larger VTEC rotors?
Originally posted by prelude styl No.. you can't use your stock brackets, you need some sort of Vtec bracket whether it be 4th gen, 5th gen, or the legend bracket you need one of them. You can try putting your bracket on there, but you'll soon realize it's not going to do anything.
And no, you cannot swap them visa versa for easier bleeding. The calipers are made to go on their respective sides because of the way the psitons are placed. The smaller piston MUST be the leading piston. When you switch sides, you're making the larger piston the leading one and will make your pads wear unevenly, and decrease braking efficiancy.
what bracket are you talking about?? if you mean the part on the hub that the two bolts go into, then, yes you can use the si bracket. all i bought for my swap was for the calipers(also pads and lines). and about switching them, most of the peops that have done this swap have switched them, but i decided not to because of the reasons you stated. have you done this swap?
well when i got my calipers, i just took off the old ones and put the new ones on, and they had all the parts there... what came with your calipers? were they rebuilt?
marsh
I got just the calipers, no bracket. And yes they are rebuilt. So you got the bracket with yours? By the bracket I mean the part that kinda goes around the rotor.
here is the right up I did, and yes you can swap the right and left I did this, and I have had them for a while now, and have just checked them recently, and there is no uneven pad wear what so ever. just my experience.
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Originally posted by Forbidden I got just the calipers, no bracket. And yes they are rebuilt. So you got the bracket with yours? By the bracket I mean the part that kinda goes around the rotor.
well when i got the calipers, it came with the whole thing, yes.
marsh
that article is very well written and informative.. but there are some holes. 1. i mounted my legend calipers the correct way(bleeders down) and had no problem bleeding the system, i just had to flip up the caliper and then bleed it. no biggie. 2. he says how bigger brakes help dissipate heat and help prevent fade, then just suddenly concludes that swap isnt recommended. i dont get it...
marsh
Interesting reading guys, when I did my swap I too put the L on the R, purely because my brake lines weren't long enough, maybe I should go and buy some stainless ones and put them on the correct side.
Originally posted by ds2000 Interesting reading guys, when I did my swap I too put the L on the R, purely because my brake lines weren't long enough, maybe I should go and buy some stainless ones and put them on the correct side.
One for the spring me thinks
Isn't the line supposed to go in the middle of the caliper? How can the brake line be too short?
The legend calipers have a groove for the lines to go through, if you put the line into it and put a lock on the lines on my car were too short. So we switched the calipers over.
Feels fine anyways, as I say if the pads wear unevenly then I'll get some stainless ones and do it then.
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