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Old 09-02-2002, 06:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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just installed the H&Rs but...

Hey I finally ordered my springs but I ran into a problem. I decided to go with H&R Sports so that I would not have a huge drop. Anyway the springs I bought, new from the groupbuy, are “red� I thought the sports were black and the race ones were red? Anyway I installed them and they really dropped the car a lot, I mean I have about a 1 finger gap all around so I think they may be the race ones and I even asked the guy at the shop if he was sure they were sport and not race and he assured me they were, since there is not indication on the H&R box itself…I installed the springs and the problem I am having is the rear tires hit the fenders when I hit a medium size bump, it hit the rear mud guards, and I thought of just taking the mud guard off but I don’t think that will fix it, I think the tire will still hit the fender lining. Can someone tell me if they have had the same problems or if the “reds� are for sure the Race springs…maybe they gave me the wrong springs? BTW: my wheels and tires are 17in, front 215/45/17, rear 205/50/17
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Old 09-02-2002, 06:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's good to hear you finally got your car lowered. I'd help you if I could, in identifying the type of springs, but I don't have H&R's. Good luck.

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Old 09-02-2002, 09:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think your rear tires are way too big for a H&R drop, going with a 45 or 40 series tire should fix your problem. 40 for safe measure.

I had the same problem with my eibachs if I make a hard turn with 45 series tires. With 40's.... no problem.

As for the springs.... I think "red" springs are also for the sport series. My friends H& R sport spring for his Audi TT was red as well.
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Old 09-02-2002, 09:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The red springsa are most certainly the sports. Both Brendon2k and myself have them. I think Ken is rightm, it's probably just the tire height.
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Old 09-02-2002, 10:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The red springsa are most certainly the sports. Both Brendon2k and myself have them. I think Ken is rightm, it's probably just the tire height.
my h&r race springs are red..
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so are you guys SURE the sports are "RED"? I also thought of the tire size, but I thought the sports are suppose to lower only 1.3 but I got like almost a 2in drop, maybe looks that way cuz the tire size, I just don't want to spend more $ on new tires and have it still hit....damn this sucks...anyway let me know what you guys think, I am almost sure I read here that the sports were "black" in color....
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Hey cantdrive55 and everyone else with the H&R Sports,
what wheel and tire size are you running? Do any of you guys have the rear mud guards on?....
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Will you take some more pics of the drop?? before you get new tires?
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Old 09-03-2002, 01:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, according to the H&R website, the SPORTS springs are BLACK and the RACE springs are RED.
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thats what I thought but others here are saying the sports are RED...
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Maybe if you can get a part number from the springs and get in touch with H&R to see if they can tell you for certain.
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Mine are red and they are the sports. I don't know what else I can say. Maybe they switched it around? I don't see why, it would cause confusing like this. I do have rear mudguards, I have 205/40/17 tires. Mine are red, and mine are the sport springs. Here's a couple pictures showing how much it's dropped:

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That's the best I have...maybe Brendon has some better pictures.
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yeah that gap looks bigger than mine but I could be wrong and maybe due to the 50 series on the rear, Ill get some pics up...
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my sports are red as well. I have about a one finget gap all around and I would say it did only drop it about 1.3 inches. what is your tire size? if you are on 45 series w/17's or 40 series w/18's that is your prob. I have 215/35/18
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I have H&R race springs and the model # on my box is 51879-88. Check the model number on your box and then check it with H&R's website.

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Here are the pics, let me what you think if they are in fact Sports or Race and if you see the problem...


where it rubs/hits

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Old 09-05-2002, 04:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Here are the pics, let me what you think if they are in fact Sports or Race and if you see the problem...


where it rubs/hits

read my post!!!
like 5 people have posted here that have h&r sports including myself. your problem is that your tires have a larger diameter than stock and that your rims dont have enough offset to tuck the wheel in the fender.
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thanks, I am not sure what the offset is on these wheels are...ive seen other ludes with them so they should be ok, I think its the tire size, this weekend I will be installed some 215-40-17 all around I hope this fixes the problem...
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Hey it's your tires they are way to big. I have the neuspeed race which is a 2 1/4" and 18" rims and rubing at all. I have 215/35ZR18. It is tires though.
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