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Old 08-03-2008, 02:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Jackson Racing prelude 4th gen lude

hey guys im from melbourne australia.. i am wondering if it is possible super charging a 4th gen lude and how much expenses will cost me... also along with engine life, modification expenses and anything else required.. currently i just bought my prelude really loving it however want some more power... i do know that u have 2 purchase custom brackets to fit the jackson racing supercharger however i want to know how much it would cost me in australia melbourne and any placcs where i can get it done... if anyone would know that would be great... cheers
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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no clue on the cost but it will be expensive, if youve got the factory h23 (good for superchargers or turbos) I would rebuild it before you put a supercharger on it or it wont last to long...... will cost you more money in the long run if you dont rebuild it first because you will more than likely eng up blowing it up.... Im currently in the process of rebuilding mine out of a 93 and it only had 139k miles (about 223699 kilometers) and the crank bearings were shot to hell.... much longer and it would have seized up, which aparently is somewhat common on those motors. so make sure you do it right and rebuild the motor for the higher compression.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Search for threads/posts from Qveon in the tech and FI sections. He has a JDM 4th gen that is sc'd and has probably answered a gazillion of these threads in the past regarding supercharging 4th gens.
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Old 08-04-2008, 04:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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hey man thanks for ur help..why is the h23 better, i thoguht the vtec engine would be because of the fact it is a vtec and has more hp.... and when rebuilding the engine wat things do i have 2 change and modify... thanks for ur help dude i realli appreciate it
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H23 is "better" or really easier when going forced induction route because of the lower compression and the lack of vtec. You really don't need it when going turbo or supercharging, in fact, some disable it or completely remove it when going FI.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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wat u rather prefere then a h22a or si model 2.3 standard 4 banger ... hey mate is there any other options than turbo and super.. take for instance installing headers, extractors and anew air filter... thanks for ur help guys appreciate it
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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intake, headers and what not are going to make a difference on either the h22 or the h23.... if your going to do FI then go with the h23...... if your not going to do FI then go with the h22..... both motors are great motors and in all reality unless your racing it really dosnt matter. to be honest I was supprised by the power that the h23 puts out....... like I said they are both great, you just need to make a decision as to if your going to do FI or not
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Old 08-04-2008, 09:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, H22's suck for boost

Either motor will be fine. If you do rebuild, make sure you get low C/R pistons like 8.5:1 or 9:1.

Bolt-ons arent gonna come close to giving you the power that boost will. Boost is VERY addicting, make sure your motor is in good health before you push it too hard.

What tuning program are you looking into?
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Old 08-04-2008, 10:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah, H22's suck for boost

Either motor will be fine. If you do rebuild, make sure you get low C/R pistons like 8.5:1 or 9:1.

Bolt-ons arent gonna come close to giving you the power that boost will. Boost is VERY addicting, make sure your motor is in good health before you push it too hard.

What tuning program are you looking into?
see here you go.... this guy acutally sounds like he knows what hes talking about.... unlike me...... Im just stupid when it comes to this stuff
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Old 08-04-2008, 06:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah, H22's suck for boost

Either motor will be fine. If you do rebuild, make sure you get low C/R pistons like 8.5:1 or 9:1.

Bolt-ons arent gonna come close to giving you the power that boost will. Boost is VERY addicting, make sure your motor is in good health before you push it too hard.

What tuning program are you looking into?
Why is everyone afraid of 10:1 or higher compression for boost? i boost my h22a all day and for any rebuild wouldnt lower my ratio. Unless you like being a dog outside of high boost.
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why do h22s suck for boost?
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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why do h22s suck for boost?
I dont think anyone said they suck... just seems that the h23 is better for boost than an h22
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hey rayslude love ur car man... to be honest mate, im not sure wat program im going 2 use.. i have 2 research it abit more.. im finking of just throwing ina new header and extractor along with a cold air intake system... reason being the prelude vtec is my everyday car.. i used basically to uni, to work and home... though wen i do have time and the extra cash to flow, i might consider poping the FI then... my main preferance is mainly swining to the supercharger due to the lack of lag time. just the **** thing to it is Jackson racing only make it for the 5 gen damn it lols
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rays lude btw wat do u have in ur car?? is urs a 4th h22a ? looks realli good man
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I appreciate the compliments, but dude, use full words and sentences, your posts are hard to read.

I had a JDM H22a in mine. 9:1 CR JE Pistons running 15 psi.
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hey rayslude, when u turboed your vtec prelude. How was it with reliability and turning. would you recommend it for daily drivers? If not what would you recommend?

thanks for your help
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why do h22s suck for boost?
Tell me why you think it sucks.
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And well since i was paged to this thread to right the wrongs:

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hey guys im from melbourne australia.. i am wondering if it is possible super charging a 4th gen lude and how much expenses will cost me... also along with engine life, modification expenses and anything else required.. currently i just bought my prelude really loving it however want some more power... i do know that u have 2 purchase custom brackets to fit the jackson racing supercharger however i want to know how much it would cost me in australia melbourne and any placcs where i can get it done... if anyone would know that would be great... cheers
yep you can do a JRSC 4th gen. Expenses? Well $blower kit + $ECU and tuning(expensive in itself) + $labor = $$$ I would do the labor yourself. its not that hard you might learn something. I never had custom brackets on mine. As for reliability: Well it voids the warranty if you had one so that gives you a hint on what it might do for reliability.

And if you are thinking about turbo, you might want to steer away because there is a lot of fabrication involves. Tons of work if you diy or pay out the butt for someone else to do it. and IMO turbos are less reliable due to a lot more things that can go wrong. Oil lines leak, wastegate sticks, oh i could go on. Not to say that is going to be your senario, but you have to tap oil pans and T into oil supply and cut and fab to get piping to fit. you might lose AC. UGH. The JRSC (even in the 4th gen) was straight bolt on. no fab work

I dont know what else you want me to say i can ramble on tho for sure. I've done both.

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And I did ALL the work MYSELF. I outsourced nothing. Even the tuning i did and fabing the downpipe.
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hey mate thanks for your help.. so when you supercharged your 4th gen lude how was it, did it drive beautifull or is stock much more enjoyable for everyday use... How long did it take you to supercharge your car?
ps your lude is honestly one of the best ones ive seen
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one more question, did any of the force induction interfere witht he VTEC mechanism ?
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