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Old 02-03-2002, 12:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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j spec motor?

I'm thinking of buying a fourth gen prelude. The kid that owns it says it has a j spec motor in it. He said that the only difference between the two is that the american modle is labeled a h23a and the j-spec moter is a h23a1. Is this true. and if so why does the motor in this car stamped h23a on the block and not a h23a1. What are the specs between the two motors? If this is the car I want I will post pics. Thanks
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I do NOT think there was ever a Jap-spec (JDM) H23 non-VTEC. He COULD have the motor out of a 2000+ JDM Accord Sir-T which is an H23 VTEC (in which case it should have a blue cover and say "dohc vtec on it"). I highly doubt it though, I have NEVER seen one in a Prelude. Basicly, I think he's BS'ing you. . .I'm almost positive there wasn't a JDM H23. . .someone on here should know for sure though.
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Old 02-03-2002, 01:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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he's lying and is full of poo. The h23a1 is the USDM Prelude motor, mine says it right where the tranny meets the motor. If it looks like this: then it is the JDM H23 VTEC red92s was talking about, notice where the engine designation is. I think the guy is full of crap, and it's the same USDM H23 the rest of us Si owners have.
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Old 02-03-2002, 10:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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then it is the JDM H23 VTEC red92s was talking about, notice where the engine designation is
Does anyone know how much one of these costs? I've emailed a few places, but no replies yet. Also, no one seems to know what aftermarket parts to use for it (H23? H22?). I think it could be a very origional swap.
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Old 02-03-2002, 10:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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hey this is a pic of the jap spec 2.3 dohc race engine u tell me if it is stock and he is fuking around or if it is the real deal.
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non vtec whats up with that?
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Old 02-03-2002, 11:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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not a JDM motor. Hope you weren't the winner of that auction.
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Old 02-03-2002, 11:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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From the pics, it looks like a USDM H23 that just has a red valve cover on it. Try asking him exactly what he means by "jap-spec", but I think he's trying to trick some dumb kid into thinking they are getting something they arn't. Also, The description of that car really sucks. . .if it is as heavily modified as he claims it is, he could have spent a little longer on the description.
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no i was not the winner but i went down there to look at it and i was like hold up he said it was and it had 25,000 miles on it and the car had 145,000 so should i buy it thinking it has 25 or 145 if i buy it. we went down there took 3 hours and then got there and it had a flat. fuker
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From the pics, it looks like a USDM H23 that just has a red valve cover on it. Try asking him exactly what he means by "jap-spec", but I think he's trying to trick some dumb kid into thinking they are getting something they arn't. Also, The description of that car really sucks. . .if it is as heavily modified as he claims it is, he could have spent a little longer on the description.
he painted the red valve cover on it. we went and look at the car its nice in all and has lots of **** done but the h23a **** i dont know if i shold get it
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it could be a second H23, with only 25,000 on it, but it's still a USDM motor, there's no such thing as a non-VTEC H23 from Japan, the ONLY H23 in Japan is the previously mentioned DOHC VTEC H23A...and I JUST heard about those, they're RARE. Still, if he lied about the motor, what else would he lie about? I'd say damn near anything, the motor is the heart of the car.
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Old 02-03-2002, 11:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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h23a **** i dont know if i shold get it
It's not like it isnt a nice engine or anything, its just not what hes claiming it is. Look at it this way: you could buy a high-milage 4th gen and put a JDM H22 in there for a few thousand less than that car will cost you. Personaly, I wouldnt buy that car, and herees why: HE'S OBVIOUSLY LYING! If he is lying about what engine the car has in it, how do you know he is telling the truth about the milage, previous accidents, what maintainance he has done, etc? I'm guessing the motor is NOT the only thing that he isnt being 100% honest about. Also, did you actually check to see if the car had REAL HID lights and not just some cheap bulbs (cause hes claiming he has a $1500 kit, but most kits only cost about $700).
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i am takeing the hid outs they were real i saw them.
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i am takeing the hid outs they were real i saw them.
so youre going to buy it?
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hey this is what the kid sent me i was just on a engine website and the diff between this motor and a stock is 14mm crank vs a 16mm crank and also oversized pistons in a non vetec so they do make a non vtec spec motor. i copy an paste this:531A HONDA H23A1 93-95 ENGINE 93-95. PRELUDE. 2259CC. DOHC. 16 VALVE. 16MM CRANK BOLT. WITHOUT CRANK ANGLE SENSOR. NOT V-TEC
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hey this is what the kid sent me i was just on a engine website and the diff between this motor and a stock is 14mm crank vs a 16mm crank and also oversized pistons in a non vetec so they do make a non vtec spec motor. i copy an paste this:531A HONDA H23A1 93-95 ENGINE 93-95. PRELUDE. 2259CC. DOHC. 16 VALVE. 16MM CRANK BOLT. WITHOUT CRANK ANGLE SENSOR. NOT V-TEC
i didnt understand a word you just said
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OMG!!!!

"There is between 30 and 50 thousand into this car!! " HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Talk about BS!!!! I think most of that came from his H23 "Jap-spec" engine. LOL. What a tool!
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hey this is what the kid sent me i was just on a engine website and the diff between this motor and a stock is 14mm crank vs a 16mm crank and also oversized pistons in a non vetec so they do make a non vtec spec motor. i copy an paste this:531A HONDA H23A1 93-95 ENGINE 93-95. PRELUDE. 2259CC. DOHC. 16 VALVE. 16MM CRANK BOLT. WITHOUT CRANK ANGLE SENSOR. NOT V-TEC
Post the link to this mecca of information then so we can check it out...
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Wow what a load of shiaat.

I will not say anything but the fact that if his car has 50,000 into it ....well there you go... it wouldn't look like money poo.


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