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Old 02-08-2003, 05:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Integra LS ECU in a Prelude Si..... truth explained

While at my friends house swapping a B16 into his Integra LS, he let me try out his PR4 (LS ECU) in my Si so that i could tell you guys what really happens when u do this and to clear up the previous thread about this.

I disconnected the battery, yanked my ECU, bolted up the LS ECU, reconnected the battery, started her up, and then let it idle for about 7-8 minutes. I drove around for a few minutes and then started to open her up a little. I did a second gear pull to redline starting at 2K RPM going WOT. off the bat the car seemed to hesitate and kinda bog up until about 3K RPM. After 3K RPM my Lude started to pull really freakin hard. It was a very noticeable difference. But right when my secondary intake runners opened up my Lude seemed to lose some of its edge and hold back a little. Every gear i tried proved to run the same.

The worst part was whenever i came to a stop light and dis-engaged the clutch, the RPM's would drop to 200 RPM and then my car would die. This never got better even after i drove around for about 15 minutes. I personally would never run a LS ECU with my H23A simply because it hesitates whenever my secondary intake runners open up. whenever i race, i get most cars off the line with my torque down low and then I usually pull on them on my top end. The PR4 doesnt let either one of these happen. so i have come to a conclusion that the LS ECU is worthless for the H23

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Old 02-08-2003, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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good, now people cant ask about it.
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Old 02-08-2003, 07:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1.8L ecu on an 2.3L engine.....kind of a no brainer....NO FUEL
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yea, i figured as much. Well now if someone asks i can give a definate answer. Thanx for the info.
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so whats wit all the fuss about havin a gsr ecu in ludes then?
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so whats wit all the fuss about havin a gsr ecu in ludes then?
you can use them for hondata. other than that the suck stock.
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do i have to use it wit hondata or can i use my ecu from 93 vtec
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People use the Integra/Civ ecu's because they are cheaper and easier to find to put into swaps. They are then reprogrammed to Prelude specs.
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what year LS did he have. cause i heard you can only use an ecu off a 94 or 95 to make it work right.
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what year LS did he have. cause i heard you can only use an ecu off a 94 or 95 to make it work right.
Its not that a different year ecu will make it "work right". The PR4 ecu is not programmed to give enough fuel to the larger 2.3 engine. The PR4 is made for a 1.8 liter engine... its just common sense to see that it won't give enough fuel.
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i was under the impression that only the h23 h22 and the gsr engine had a dual stage TB. if that is the case doesn't the vaccume be useless meaning that it would aways be open. that might explain why ther is a bog on the low end, cause if you unplug ur vaccume tube, you just bog till around 3-3.5k and pull alll the way to red line
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the point is, the engine would still be bogging.... we don't want that

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Doing something like that can'd possibly be good on the motor.
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Man do any of you read my threads? I posted all this stuff already. Trust me I know my sh*t. If you really had to go try it out, or you actually thought it would improve your car, then you have no clue. here you go ls ecu on SI
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i was under the impression that only the h23 h22 and the gsr engine had a dual stage TB. if that is the case doesn't the vaccume be useless meaning that it would aways be open. that might explain why ther is a bog on the low end, cause if you unplug ur vaccume tube, you just bog till around 3-3.5k and pull alll the way to red line
Also it isn't a dual stage TB it is secondary runners opening in the Intake Manifold controlled by a siliniod and vacuum. And the b18 has it as well. Not just the B18c. In fact I am using the silinoid from a LS Intake Manifold.
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Man do any of you read my threads? I posted all this stuff already. Trust me I know my sh*t. If you really had to go try it out, or you actually thought it would improve your car, then you have no clue. here you go ls ecu on SI
I think most of us knew that it would not be bennificial but there still seemed to be people asking and they didnt get the point that the car would run lean.
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^^ exactly.
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so if i am goin to get hondata i should buy a gsr ecu??? lookin o get mine chipped or sumthin!!!!!!!!!!1
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Only if you have H22.
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The car f-in run lean!! It goes into open loop over 4k and sprays as much gas as the injectors will spray! It is essentially an H23 ECU over 4k axcept for the ignition map. I don't have the flappers anymore and if you don't you won't have that prob.
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PR4 is for 90~93 LS. The LS ECU I have is P75(92~95).

edit: http://www.hondata.com/vehicles.html
you can see PR4 is not listed as suitable ECU for H23A.
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Ha ha ha. The ECU you need is from a 94-95 LS NOT A PR4. I was NEVER talking about a 90-93. So don't come at me like I'm an idiot. Mike PS dagerzone i don't care if you're a guy but i love you, thanks.

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