OK dudes, I bought an Intake off eBay, a cheapo $50 intake system, "CTR Cold Air Intake" and well...
You get what you pay for, eh? The package came with zero instructions... I always like a point of reference whenever I install a bolt on, don't wanna just "wing it" .. so does anyone know where I can get my hands on some instructions? I assume they all install the same... I have one that goes all the way down towards the passenger side headlight area.. Thanks guys
Originally posted by jpprelude No problem, and good luck with that. Let me know how it goes.
Oh man oh man.. Never buy the non-name brand shiznit when it comes to performance parts.. You truly get what you pay for......
So I skipped the resonator removal part just because I have no idea if that pertains to the 4th Gen at all.. I follow the steps, run the new pipe... and I find that the 2nd elbow is LONG, I mean REALLY LONG.. TOO LONG...
I have 1 of 2 choices.... Either get a jigsaw, and cut into the chassis so that when I angle the 2nd elbow down, the intake will fit... or cut the elbow.
Cut the elbow I did... Cut it literally in half because it was so long.. the intake part is now resting directly next to the battery.. kinda like in the pic for the manual you sent me...
But it was successful, gives a nice little roar when I go WOT now..
Any 4th Gen people know how to remove the resonator? Or where it is? Thanks.
The resonator is in the fender. When you took out your stock air box you see this black thing with a grill in it under right? Thats the resonator It's this big black thing hiddden to make the intake quieter. Anyways to take it out you need to remove I beleive 3 bolts. Theres 2 ways to do this. You can take the entire bumper cover off and get it that way or you can peel back your fender lining and get it that way. It's annoying to get out because theres not alot of space to work with. Sorry I don't have a detailed description of how to take it out I did it so long ago I don't remember where the bolts are.
You say you had to chop the pipe? so you no longer have a Cold Air intake? you have a under the hood. All Cold Air Intakes require you to take out the resontor because thats where the air filter goes.
when I took out the stock airbox, there was a TINY hole with a grate.. and there was no way that pipe was gonna fit in there without a good amount of time exerted in widening that hole... is that normal? To have to use a jigsaw or something to widen that little hole??? Thats no fun!
Yup that was it.. cold air intakes require you to make that hole bigger to fit the pipe through. Even the AEM ones requires you to do that. So don't feel bad that you bought a generic one and thought that it doesn't fit right. The only one that does is the iceman, theirs fits in that hole with out any modifcation.
The pipe will fit once you remove the resonator, you might have to bang the opening with a rubber malet slightly to get it to fit. I used some left over Akimoto 3mm blue silicon hose, sliced it in half and used it to line the opening. This really highlights the intake. But here is what you do.
Turn your wheel all the way to the right./ or take it of completley to make it easier.
Remove 8 plastic screws holding in the fender liner
The liner is very flexable and should come right out with some force.
The liner also slips under the front portion of your cars bumper sheild, one screw holds this in as well.
You will now see just how restrictive you resonator is.
It's a black contraption with a vacume butterfly that only opens when in WOT.
It has like this mess of intertwining plastic pipes.
There are three screws, two are right out in the open, and one is hidden on the upper inside.
This last one is a b!tch to get at, I had to remove my clear bumper lense to get to it, you might be able to squeeze your hand and a ratchet in there...good luck.
Once it is out.. all you gotta do is slide the pipe in, install the filter loosley install the bracket bolts and brace. You got a two peice so now you slide the 2nd pipe onto the rubber connector. Tighten the pipe clamps, tighten the bracket bolts and you are done. Start the car and make sure everything is OK. If it is put the liner back in, put the wheel back on and go for a ride.
PS I used my dremel tool to cut more vents in my plastic fender under liner (more cool air)
IMO you just wasted and F^CKED up your new intake
You don't have a CAI now, all you got is a short ram that has to work harder to suck in the same hot air from your engine bay cuz the pipe is longer. My guess is you just lost HP, and gained some noise
I know the pipe looked long but it needs to be, SO YOU CAN GET COLDER AIR, plus your filter would have slid over a large portion of that length.
Yeah Ebay parts lack in instructions. But the materials, the Diameter and the Filter are all the same that AEM uses. It's called reverse engineering. Companies buy the AEM unit, match the pipe, the Diameter and filter and they just paid for no R&D, that's why they can sell them so cheap..cuz they got no overhead.
Heck a good muffler shop can make you a cold air intake bye matching the curves of your stock one, bending some 3 inch Stainless steel pipe, and using silicon pipe connectors from home depot, the K&N filter is only 15 bucks..you just got a CAI for dirt money
Hmmm... I dont want to speak to soon, but it *APPEARS* as if the area you're talking to right above the resonator is pure metal.. and its a diameter slightly smaller than the pipe itself, and as you're looking down, you still a small mesh grate.. You were able to bend that with just a mallet? I'll give it a shot, and I talked to my guy about reordering a 2nd elbow...
So are the 4th Gen and 5th Gen CAI the same or different ??? This is image is from the reference up above, and right now my CAI looks exactly like this one... thanks for the info tho, I'mma give that a crack.
Originally posted by sporttheimport wait wait wait......... u are saying that my DC sports short ram intake actually made me LOSE power!?
peace,
tim
Naw..I'm sure your short ram gave you like 2 hp, cuz it's made well. But all those short rams just suck hot air in from the engine bay. And I don't know about your lude but mine get's hot as hell with my headers and stuff. My point was that Jape cut his CAI and actually ended up with a short ram intake that is longer then any other short ram intake. Esentially forcing you engine to suck hot air through a longer straw.
'96 and up (OBD2): Without something to counteract the ECU's "learning", ANY intake will do little more than a few HP, no more than 10.
'95 and earlier (OBD1): While cold air is denser and creats more power, some attention should be given to pressure, ambient temps, and underhood temps as well. People whine a lot about how great a CAI is, but in the Prelude, I have yet to see any proof of this. Regardless, intake air temps behind the headlight, once the engine is run for 10-30 seconds, will have dropped to ambient. Yes, it's a drop in power, but only good for a half second off your ET IMHO. I'd be more concerned about the pressure drop due to the "cave" the resonator/CAI filter sits in compared to the engine bay.
The easiest way to open up the resonator "hole" for the CAI is described in the AEM CAI review on http://www.ntpog.org as well as the rest of the installation procedure (and resonator removal) in the Mods section.
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OK dudes, I bought an Intake off eBay, a cheapo $50 intake system, "CTR Cold Air Intake" and well...
You get what you pay for, eh? The package came with zero instructions... I always like a point of reference whenever I install a bolt on, don't wanna just "wing it" .. so does anyone know where I can get my hands on some instructions? I assume they all install the same... I have one that goes all the way down towards the passenger side headlight area.. Thanks guys
You may have to get a professional to install it, I tryed to in stall mine and its about 4 inches too long and i may have to cut into the fender. I will let You know as soon as i can afford a professional install.
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