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Old 04-14-2009, 11:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I got Problems anyone Help?

Ok i have a 93 Honda Prelude with a JDM H22a Swap. It has a t3/t4 turbo with fmic. Its a custom setup, so pictures would look disgusting i got screwed over by the guy who did it. So now i'm left picking up the pieces and trying to fix this utterly messed up mistake. First off, until yesterday i couldn't get the car to start after it had been sitting for awhile. Prior to it sitting it was running super badass, but then it sucked in the spring on the Waste gate, and boosted like crazy. Started pissin white smoke from not only the motor but the exhaust. Until yesterday, it wasn't running. I took the valve covers off and to look and see, found oil in places i shouldn't have, thinking i may have blown my head gasket. I cleaned the Spark Plugs with Carbon cleaner and tweaked some minor tune up stuff, and finally got the motor to start and to Idle like normal. Still smoking slightly but not as bad as before. So today I'm getting a Compression tester, Spark Plug Tester, and i'm changing the oil. Trying to get a good diagnostic on the car before i go blow tons of money on it. So basically what i'm looking for is anyone who may have had this problem before, or someone who knows more about these motors than i do. Anyone Help would be greatly appreciated.

also, at the top left corner of the motor there are two hoses that come off the block. One goes into my Intake Manifold and the other goes where?
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not once did I see you replaced the spring to the WG......wow...just wow
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It sounds like you blew a head gasket. You should probably keep your wastegate open until you figure out what the problem is.

Did you ever run that car in the 1/4 mile?
I was just wondering what kind of eta that setup gets.
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not once did I see you replaced the spring to the WG......wow...just wow
Are you retarded or something? Why would i want to fix the TURBO system when my ENGINE has problems? The turbo has nothing to do with my Engine smoking. Maybe you should go to school or something or keep smart ass remarks to your self. Im looking for help not idiots.

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I haven't taken it to the track yet i had it all setup for the track. But however i did race some of my buddies and their American sports cars... My buddy used to have a 2004 Z06 with a 383 Stroker pullin around 500 plus easily and i was neck n neck with him. other than that i typically ran really low on the psi talking 4-5, just cause i was driving it daily and i was still smokin a lot of cars it was kinda ridiculous to be honest.

My friend is a Mechanic and after i got it running he thought it was a piston ring, but then again the oil looks watery from when i pulled the dipstick. But im going to change the oil in about n hour when i get home and see how she runs after. then run the compression tester and spark plug tester make sure shes holdin together. after that il post the findings to come.
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A good test for Head gasket problem is a leak down test, similar to the compression test only you dont have turn the engine over 5 times. The turbo could very well be a reason why your head gasket is blown. Do you know if the guy that did this setup put the turbo required internals?
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Are you retarded or something? Why would i want to fix the TURBO system when my ENGINE has problems? The turbo has nothing to do with my Engine smoking. Maybe you should go to school or something or keep smart ass remarks to your self. Im looking for help not idiots.

Duston,

I haven't taken it to the track yet i had it all setup for the track. But however i did race some of my buddies and their American sports cars... My buddy used to have a 2004 Z06 with a 383 Stroker pullin around 500 plus easily and i was neck n neck with him. other than that i typically ran really low on the psi talking 4-5, just cause i was driving it daily and i was still smokin a lot of cars it was kinda ridiculous to be honest.

My friend is a Mechanic and after i got it running he thought it was a piston ring, but then again the oil looks watery from when i pulled the dipstick. But im going to change the oil in about n hour when i get home and see how she runs after. then run the compression tester and spark plug tester make sure shes holdin together. after that il post the findings to come.

You'll never get help being a sh1t head so why dont you take a step back. Taking shots at people that have been on this board helping others for the last 6-10 years will get you nowhere. The WG still has an issue and its a known problem so whats wrong with pointing out that you havent addressed that yet?

Now you're question is has anyone here lost a spring on a WG and started to overboost I'm sure a couple might have however my guess is they shut their car down before it was smoking everywhere. You're not going to find your answer until you do the compression and leak down tests. Once you get those results try acting civilized and you might get some advice you can use.
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lolwut? You beat a car that runs a ~12 second 1/4 mile bone stock?
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You'll never get help being a sh1t head so why dont you take a step back. Taking shots at people that have been on this board helping others for the last 6-10 years will get you nowhere. The WG still has an issue and its a known problem so whats wrong with pointing out that you havent addressed that yet?

Now you're question is has anyone here lost a spring on a WG and started to overboost I'm sure a couple might have however my guess is they shut their car down before it was smoking everywhere. You're not going to find your answer until you do the compression and leak down tests. Once you get those results try acting civilized and you might get some advice you can use.
ok So i fix the WG, now Same problems. AND fyi i shut the car off and towed it cause i knew something was wrong. Seriously if you've been on this board for 6-10 years then you should know that fixing the turbo setup is not going to fix the motor when its smoking.


For those of you who actually had some advice, thanks. I think im bout to have to go balls to the wall and pull the motor and replace the rings, I changed the oil and found metal shavings in it, and the smoke started coming out of the oil pan. So im pretty sure its the rings, So with my new setup.. See if anyone had heard anything about Cryo Pistons and rings?
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Sounds like you could benefit from a new set of SEARCH rings. You should email their support team.

The contact info is on their website: SEARCH Intake Systems
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Sounds like you could benefit from a new set of SEARCH rings. You should email their support team.

The contact info is on their website: SEARCH Intake Systems
Dont' bother. Last time I spoke with Rick, their main tech guy, he said they would not be ready till around the 4th of July. But I guess that depends on how soon you need them also.
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Dont' bother. Last time I spoke with Rick, their main tech guy, he said they would not be ready till around the 4th of July. But I guess that depends on how soon you need them also.
I knew the SEARCH people have had their hands full for quite a while now with product line expansion and what not. It's a shame. They make great parts.
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ok So i fix the WG, now Same problems. AND fyi i shut the car off and towed it cause i knew something was wrong. Seriously if you've been on this board for 6-10 years then you should know that fixing the turbo setup is not going to fix the motor when its smoking.


For those of you who actually had some advice, thanks. I think im bout to have to go balls to the wall and pull the motor and replace the rings, I changed the oil and found metal shavings in it, and the smoke started coming out of the oil pan. So im pretty sure its the rings, So with my new setup.. See if anyone had heard anything about Cryo Pistons and rings?
Listen to you talk, you havent even said if you've figured out where the issue is yet and based on metal in the oil pans you're going to go balls out and replace the rings? You are obviously much smarter then I am, good luck sir.
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Listen to you talk, you havent even said if you've figured out where the issue is yet and based on metal in the oil pans you're going to go balls out and replace the rings? You are obviously much smarter then I am, good luck sir.
No not saying im smarter, But the fact that there is no water in the oil, so its not a head gasket. And the fact that the oil is burning (smoke is blue) and ontop of that there is oil mixing in with the spark plugs. i dont know when the last time you changed your oil on your motor and found metal shavings all in it... Im not trying to bash anyone on here, just seems people make smart ass remarks when im trying to get help, you think im just going to sit here and someone make fun of me because i didn't replace the spring in the WG? Seriously i now know why i left this site 4 years ago... Apparently it still has assholes on here who KNOW absolutely everything... Whatever

For everyone who actually had advice Thank you, I'm almost 100% positive it's the piston rings. I have no compression so i have no power at all and wont spin the turbo...

I think Im going Cryo Pistons and Rings...yup gonna try this out n see how strong they really are.
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No not saying im smarter, But the fact that there is no water in the oil, so its not a head gasket. And the fact that the oil is burning (smoke is blue) and ontop of that there is oil mixing in with the spark plugs.
Well looks like your story has changed a bit... In your original post you said white smoke and didn't mention anything about oil on the spark plugs.

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Ok i have a 93 Honda Prelude with a JDM H22a Swap. It has a t3/t4 turbo with fmic. Its a custom setup, so pictures would look disgusting i got screwed over by the guy who did it. So now i'm left picking up the pieces and trying to fix this utterly messed up mistake. First off, until yesterday i couldn't get the car to start after it had been sitting for awhile. Prior to it sitting it was running super badass, but then it sucked in the spring on the Waste gate, and boosted like crazy. Started pissin white smoke from not only the motor but the exhaust. Until yesterday, it wasn't running. I took the valve covers off and to look and see, found oil in places i shouldn't have, thinking i may have blown my head gasket. I cleaned the Spark Plugs with Carbon cleaner and tweaked some minor tune up stuff, and finally got the motor to start and to Idle like normal. Still smoking slightly but not as bad as before. So today I'm getting a Compression tester, Spark Plug Tester, and i'm changing the oil. Trying to get a good diagnostic on the car before i go blow tons of money on it. So basically what i'm looking for is anyone who may have had this problem before, or someone who knows more about these motors than i do. Anyone Help would be greatly appreciated.

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Well also not having a spring in the wastegate would mean it's open at all times... That wouldn't cause you to overboost. Taking the reference vacuum would do that though. Are you sure that your wastegate is hooked up right?
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Also, you may want to check your turbo health since it just spun out of control. Hopefully it isn't seized which would cause your no spool problem.

Oh, and make sure to go fist your asshole for talking to Travis like that.
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