i would like to know this as well, I really need to rechage my ac this summer but i know freon is really hazardous....should this be left to the pros???
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Originally posted by neoekai i would like to know this as well, I really need to rechage my ac this summer but i know freon is really hazardous....should this be left to the pros???
that's what ive been telling myself, but recently my girl's dad bought some cans of freons from kmart, and refilled my gf's honda civic w/o any hassle and took him about less than 10 mins. i was going to ask him how'd he did it, but im affraid of him
Yes it should be left to someone who does that. I wonder how much it would cost to replace b/c i dont have any b/c they drained it when i did my engine swap????
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Man, it's so easy to do. There's a kit you can buy at Discount or Napa, it has full instructions and you can buy the freon there too. If you still don't get it, the people that work there are usually pretty nice and helpful. It would be a waste of money if you took it somewhere. And then, anytime you needed a recharge, all you'd need is the freon, because you'd already have the kit.
Originally posted by preludechic Man, it's so easy to do. There's a kit you can buy at Discount or Napa, it has full instructions and you can buy the freon there too. If you still don't get it, the people that work there are usually pretty nice and helpful. It would be a waste of money if you took it somewhere. And then, anytime you needed a recharge, all you'd need is the freon, because you'd already have the kit.
According to Motor Trend, any car made since '95 has the newer refrigerant HFC-134a. This is the stuff that if availible at auto parts stores. Unfortunately, anyone with a 4th gen from 92-94 has CFC-12, or freon, which is the stuff that has apparently jacked up the ozone.
Anyways, MT says there are two options if you have a pre '95 car. One, to find CFC-12, which is getting more expensive since they don't manufacture it anymore, they only sell old stock or recycled stuff. The other option is to put in the new HFC-134a, but you can't simply dump it in your ac system, you have to replace alot of components otherwise the new refrigerant will break down the old hoses and leak all over. The changing of parts can be from $100 to $800. Basically, in no certain terms, this sucks for all pre-95 cars.
According to Motor Trend, any car made since '95 has the newer refrigerant HFC-134a. This is the stuff that if availible at auto parts stores. Unfortunately, anyone with a 4th gen from 92-94 has CFC-12, or freon, which is the stuff that has apparently jacked up the ozone.
Anyways, MT says there are two options if you have a pre '95 car. One, to find CFC-12, which is getting more expensive since they don't manufacture it anymore, they only sell old stock or recycled stuff. The other option is to put in the new HFC-134a, but you can't simply dump it in your ac system, you have to replace alot of components otherwise the new refrigerant will break down the old hoses and leak all over. The changing of parts can be from $100 to $800. Basically, in no certain terms, this sucks for all pre-95 cars.
Hope this helps.
(Info from MT June 2002 "Cool Running" artical)
i believe all 4th gens use r-134a. 93's do and more likely than not, so do the 92's
i just had mine refilled for about $40, but now its not working again. Found out there was a leak that they didn't find. Now they want to charge me $80 for an "advanced test" to find where the leak is. And that isn't even the cost to repair it.
I saw some "a/c leak detector" cans at autozone and right next to those i saw some labeled "a/c leak repair." lol, maybe u could try a combo of those and repair it yourself?
you can buy r-12 refrigerant from your local honda dealer for about $30-40 per can. If your car is empty, it normally takes about 3 cans and about 20 minutes to refill. You can buy the r-12 hose adapter that screws into the top of the can at Pepboys or Autozone for about $15. If anyone is really interested and has the cans already, I can take pictures of the process.
Originally posted by Khmerlude i just had mine refilled for about $40, but now its not working again. Found out there was a leak that they didn't find. Now they want to charge me $80 for an "advanced test" to find where the leak is. And that isn't even the cost to repair it.
You might just have to replace a $.25 o-ring. Most leaks occur around the o-ring in the a/c unit in the front grille area, next to the radiator. Lower left....you see it?
if your a/c needs to be refilled you have a leak somewere. the system doesn't actually use the refrigerant, it just blows air over it to make the air colder (when was the last time you had the refrigerator in your house recharged? ) it may be a really slow leak but it is leaking if it is empty.
Originally posted by G_Loc I saw some "a/c leak detector" cans at autozone and right next to those i saw some labeled "a/c leak repair." lol, maybe u could try a combo of those and repair it yourself?
The leak detectors (at least the ones we use at the dealership) are just dye that glows in black light. So what we do, it just put it in the system, wait a few days, then shine a black light around. Same with trannys..
Pretty sure this should be the same as the consumer product.
Originally posted by SiR-P12eLude just take it to the mechanics, i'm telling ya only 20 to 30 bucks tops for refills, save the hassle on doing it yourself!
well, here in Miami the cans cost like $5 each, and u can buy a gauge for like $10 to see how much pressure is in the system, so by doing it himself, he can save him money if he needs freon often
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