..i have a 93 Si (5 speed), and i removed:
1. resonator
2. back seats & Tar
3. Stripped trunk & tar
4. Spare
5. Jack
6. little stuff here and there....
just curious... when i get my JDM H22A i plan to remove A/C & Power Steering. and remove the carpeting and tar from the front seats...
Peace.
there is no use for my backseats, for that matter Preludes in general 4th and 5th generations, have a backseat good for books... so why treat my books so kindly? i ripped out the back seats and stripped the trunk, and i am in the process of using carbon fiber to cover up the metal... just waiting for it to be shipped... any ideas?
Peace.
plus i don't know if you know it but wait reduction is the biggest mod you can do... for every 12 lbs. lost you gain 1 horsepower...
some info for ya...
you dont' actually gain 1hp for every 12lbs lost. i'm sure thats not how you meant to say it though...
anyways..you people that remove A/C, how can you do it!?!?!i live in Indiana, and there is no way i could remove my A/C...granted that with the humidity here summer days are usually over 100 degrees, in dryer parts of the country i know its not that bad, but on a 90 degree day with 85% humidity, i would be dying without A/C. do you live in really dry climate areas or are you just insane?
You should've kept all that tar and weighed it. I always wondered how much that crap weighed.
I don't think you saved much more than 100lbs. If I remember correctly, that for every 70 lbs saved, you gain a tenth in the 1/4. I'm probably wrong but oh well.
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....is equal to 1 horsepower gained, goto hondaprelude.com and do a search, some genius did this huge formula and figured it out....
good idea i still have all that tar and crap chillin on the floor never swept it up, i am going to sweep it all up and put it in a bag, and goto Walbaums or Pathmark goto the produce section and weigh it on the scale b/c i don't have a scale in my house...
...i'll post exactly what i get give or take 5 lbs... remember this is the tar from under the back seats and trunk, i didn't remove the tar from the front seats yet, not until i get some sparco's...
i'll keep you posted.
but from what i remembered, its like removing rocks!! i seriously chiseled it off the metal, its straight up rock.
There is no way that removing weight from the car will give you more horsepower. HP is a # that is generated from the Engine only. Sorry, but taking out excess weight on a stock 4th gen Si will you about 0 hp over the original 160. That would be like saying: Man I am going to buy car "X" that weighs 2000 lbs, and put an H22 in it. So if my stock Prelude weighs 2900 lbs, and it has 190hp, then if I put the same engine in car "X", then it now has 265hp. Because it weighs 900 lbs less. That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Now, removing weight will make the car faster in both straight line performance as well, as on a track. Especially if the weight is unsprung mass. If you were to take the 2 above mentioned cars, and line them up on the track with equal drivers, then of course car "X" will be faster. But decreased weight does not= increased hp.
Originally posted by Mike95lude i think what they mean is that the car will "perform like" it has gained a certain amount of power from having a certain amount of weight reduction.
Yeah, I hope that's what they are talking about. Does anyone know if my statement about shedding a tenth off for every 70 lbs reduced is true?
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2004 WRX Wagon (Pounding the snow)
...in easier words to understand, if there are to cars with the same horsepower and torque, one weighing 2700 and one weighing 3000, the lighter one would win in a race.
nah man, you are wrong. You don't actually GAIN horsepower like you said. If you said that the gains were comparable to a xhp gain, then fine. Like James said, the only way you can GAIN hp is through the motor, not by reducing weight (unless that weight came off of some of the rotating parts of the motor, but that's another story.
I agree completely with your last statement. That's common sense and everyone agrees with you on that, but it doesn't GIVE you hp, just makes it easier to move.
No big deal, we know what you are talking about
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2004 WRX Wagon (Pounding the snow)
I think PreludeGod of CT took all of his tar out (ALL of it), and he found it to be around 200 lbs. Sorry, PG if I beat ya to it ... just remembered it from the top of my head.
Peace,
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what are the consequences of removing all the tar? doesn't it make your car all tin-sounding and rattly??
what would be a good foam to fill in the gaps so that the doors don't rattle when you take out the chunks of rubber/tar? obviously a lighter foam would be preferred, but do you guys know what would work in an application like this?
and to figure out the formula, it should be really easy, unfortunately I haven't taken physics in a loong time (it was awesome though) and i remember it would be easy enough to figure out if you know your basic algebra and formulae
Originally posted by PreludeNYC ..i have a 93 Si (5 speed), and i removed:
1. resonator
2. back seats & Tar
3. Stripped trunk & tar
4. Spare
5. Jack
6. little stuff here and there....
just curious... when i get my JDM H22A i plan to remove A/C & Power Steering. and remove the carpeting and tar from the front seats...
Peace.
my guess is closer to 60 lbs. I dont really see the point of removing the A/C. It is worth its weight in gold to me. It doesnt weigh all that much, and when it is not engaged, the pulley spins freely with virtually no drag. But it does sound like you are going for every pound here, so good luck.
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