me and my bro tried installing my xenon kit today but ran into a problem. i have the k2 kit btw. we connected everything right, we put the new fuse and the kit just didnt turn on. we checked the connections over and tried again, didnt work. switched ballasts, didnt work. then a bit of rain started coming down so we disconnected everything and put it back to my normal bulbs. i have a 1995 honda prelude with jdm headlights. the original wirings for the headlights is 9006, but with the jdm headlights, its converted to h4. the two wires for the 9006 were soldered to the h4 wires. i know its the right polarity because my headlights work, just not my xenon. im not sure whats wrong, maybe someone has experienced this before? or have some sort of solution?
I do know that the JDM H4s use 2 wires and USDM H4s use 3 wires. For example, check out a Civic light harness. It has one wire that is positive, one negative, and one for a relay. On the JDM lights, there is one positive and one negative. I tried to upgrade my wiring harness for my lights, and I couldn't.
i believe i figured out the problem. the pronges on the bulb werent matching up correctly to the harness. like the positive pronge on the bulb was connecting to the ground socket in the harness. so i just changed the pronges around and now it should work fine. still didnt test it yet but im almost 100% sure that thats what went wrong.
Last edited by MidNiteMysT; 10-08-2003 at 02:37 PM.
i installed an HID kit in my friend's car and the stupid ballasts had the ground and positive cable improperly labeled as positive and ground, respectively.
i went ahead and took the pronges out and now i can configure it how i want it and match it up with my cars wiring but before i do and put my xenon on, i have a few questions.
if by mistake, i reverse the positive and negitive wires, like if i attach the positive to the negitive for both wires, will something go wrong? will something break or short or anything? or will the xenon simply not turn on and no harmful effects will occur to my hid kit?
and i only have two wires for the h4 in my car. only positive and negitive, and no ground. is it ok to only use the positive and negitive wires and not connect anything to the ground? what happens if i dont? so i have three pronges on the bulb, but i only have positive and negitive wires to attach to them, and no ground.
that just seems wierd since theres a seperate ground pronge for h4 bulbs. lets get back to my questions then.
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if by mistake, i reverse the positive and negitive wires, like if i attach the positive to the negitive for both wires, will something go wrong? will something break or short or anything? or will the xenon simply not turn on and no harmful effects will occur to my hid kit?
and also, if anyone knows what pronges are positive and negitive on a h4 piaa bulb, that would help me. thanx.
no you won't mess anything up. The ballasts won't allow the reversed power to go to the bulb, they'll just simply not turn on. And on an H4 bulb, there's 3 prongs: 2 power wires, and 1 ground wire (a ground = negative, these 2 words are exactly the same). There's 2 power prongs for the low and high beam fillaments. When it was said that one is a relay wire, that's technically true, it's relaying the same power to a different prong, so both are positive.
If you're looking at the bottom of the bulb so the middle prong is at the top: it's high filament power (left), low filament power (middle), ground (right).
Originally posted by prelude styl no you won't mess anything up. The ballasts won't allow the reversed power to go to the bulb, they'll just simply not turn on. And on an H4 bulb, there's 3 prongs: 2 power wires, and 1 ground wire (a ground = negative, these 2 words are exactly the same). There's 2 power prongs for the low and high beam fillaments. When it was said that one is a relay wire, that's technically true, it's relaying the same power to a different prong, so both are positive.
If you're looking at the bottom of the bulb so the middle prong is at the top: it's high filament power (left), low filament power (middle), ground (right).
ok, so both are positive..... ill just try to figure this thing out cuz i dont know which wire is for the high filament and which is for the low filament. i dont know what color wires should connect to what pronge.
and i dont have a wire connected to the ground pronge. does that matter? will it affect anything? i only have two wires and they connect to the high and low filament pronges.
Last edited by MidNiteMysT; 10-09-2003 at 02:54 PM.
My bad, it's left- ground, middle- low filament, right- high filament. Your bulbs wouldn't work if you had the power wire and ground wire going to both the power prongs.
Originally posted by prelude styl My bad, it's left- ground, middle- low filament, right- high filament. Your bulbs wouldn't work if you had the power wire and ground wire going to both the power prongs.
yea, thats what i was thinkin. if they were both connected to positive pronges, then it wouldnt work. so let me just make sure. lets say the h4 middle pronge is on top. left = ground, top=low beam, right= high beam. that would make sense since my bulbs now work and the pronges are connected to the top and left pronges only and that i cant use the high beam filament in the xenon kit. so please confirm what i said.
and i guess its ok to leave the right pronge (high beam pronge) just loose without anything connected to it?
and also, im pretty sure that reverse polarity wont hurt my ballast since its a hella ballast, right?
one last question... what color wire means what? like black=negitive? white=? red=positive??
well all wire colors aren't universal MOST of the time, red means power, black always means ground. On our honda's, yellow also means power, and anything with a yellow stripe is power (but normally switched by something, not constant).
Originally posted by prelude styl well all wire colors aren't universal MOST of the time, red means power, black always means ground. On our honda's, yellow also means power, and anything with a yellow stripe is power (but normally switched by something, not constant).
Yes it's ok to leave the other prong alone.
no reverse polarity won't hurt it.
ok great, thanx for the help once again. you always help me out with all my questions would u happen to have a aim sn?
edit: nevermind, i saw your aim icon under your post.
i finally tried to install my xenon yesterday and it wouldnt work! what could be the problem? could i have messed it up? maybe i connected the lowbeam but no ground and it messed it up? i know i didnt connect it right the first time but then i realized i messed up and i was almost positive i fixed the problem and it should have lit up but it didnt. i dont know what the problem was. i tried reversing polarity, and doing a bunch of different configurations on where the stock harness connects to the kits harness thing. so instead of putting the thing onto the halogen bulb, it connect it to this white piece and that leads to the ballast. i was messing with that configuration of the white piece but no luck. im running out of options. only that the ballast may be bad?
Last edited by MidNiteMysT; 02-08-2004 at 01:28 PM.
take some clear pics displayin the routing of the wiring on one side at least. we might be able to help you if we can see what your are doing, not that your description is not good. Everyone sets their stuff up different so its hard to picture and help. But main thing you have to do is check your headlight fuses first, i m sure you probly did. so get some pics displaying the situation, kinda like this, when i installed my euro headlights. clear to tell which wires is goin where and stuff.
I m using h4 bulbs also, and i blew a few fuses wiring them. on that pic i m using heavy duty sockets so they dont melt cause of the high wattage, but anyway, the way i wired the h4 is, the blue and black wire from the heavy duty harness are connected to the 2 prongs facing each other on the h4 with the positive of highs and lows, and the top prong, using the white wire is the ground. ( i m using the low beam ground on there, and butted the high beam ground) The top prong on the bulbs i m using is expecting to be ground, and i didnt know what so yea i blew a few fuses, but now i got it to work fine. i dont know how hids work, but i m sure its just wirings, so i hope this helps, u can aim me, i m koolio4.
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ya know what? i didnt check the fuse!!! holy ****, i bet thats it. i never even thought of that lol. you need what kinda fuse? 20 amp? i bet i blew it already and thats why its not working. hopefully it is, and yea, sorry for not posting more pics. i had more on hid forum .com so ill copy and paste them here. im going to my girlfriends house now so ill prob have to respond later at like 11:20
thanx.
http://hidforum.com/forum/showthread...ght=xenon+help
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