Having probs with the lude.. let's see who can diagnose
Lude was running fine on Saturday, then the Instrument panel started flickering (temp/gas & clock) then it got sluggish. Later that night it started fine, it put it reverse to back out.. but the it got sluggish again like the battery was draining & it died. I tried to start it but it wouldn't... it would crank.. but no start. I also notice that when I would turn the key once...the instu. panel lights (temp/gas clock) wouldn't turn on like they usually do.
I jumped it with my wife's accord thinking it might the battery.. but no start... crank but no start, crank sounded strong. The next morning I tried it again.. no start until the third time... Instru. lights did turn on with the car...after I turned it off.. it acted funny again. So I replace the Ignition Coil & distributor rotor anyways just incase. After installing those... I notice that if I turned the key to the first position, no instru. lights.. but if I turned it more (like I'm cranking) with No crank.. the Instru lights turn on & stay on.. which at that point if I cranked, the lude starts fine. SO... what do you think it is??....
A. Battery (which it's not cuz I jumped it with a good one)
B. Alternator (which I don't think it is.. cuz it starts & runs fine)
C. Ignition Coil (which it's not cz I replaced w/new one)
D. Distributor or/& Cap (which I don't think it is, cuz it wouldn't explain the Instrument panel lights)
E. Ignition switch
F. Any other options that I'm leaving out.
From this diagram... Honda said they could sell me the Electrical part of it, wiring harness for $60
but if I wanted the whole Ass. w/new keys $260.
Not worried about the price.. I just don't want to buy something pricey when I don't have to.. know what I mean. Your help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
I haven't checked that yet... but would the car start if it was... cuz like I said... it starts... it just shuts off every now & then.. and the Instru. lights act weird...
The main relay in under the hood .. fuse box.. right? Gotta check the Helm.
sounds like its not the main relay since the instrument lights are acting up like he said. i am guessing the ignition switch. the main relay is under the steering column - a PITA to get to, but I think it's like $60 from honda. borrow one from someone just to test it would be my suggestion. Good luck! My ignition switch is acting up i think, the radio doesnt come on all the time, but when i turn it off then back on it works fine again.
Originally posted by jsmooney sounds like its not the main relay since the instrument lights are acting up like he said. i am guessing the ignition switch. the main relay is under the steering column - a PITA to get to, but I think it's like $60 from honda. borrow one from someone just to test it would be my suggestion. Good luck! My ignition switch is acting up i think, the radio doesnt come on all the time, but when i turn it off then back on it works fine again.
is it just the radio.. or the whole instru panel??
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Originally posted by jsmooney p.s. - i HATE electrical problems
So you're saying that when you turn the key to ON, nothing happens? If you turn it to accessory, do they work? Also you can crank the engine but when you let go everything shuts off? If so then it's your ignition switch, happened to me last summer, I hot wired the car for two days until I could get the switch
That's exactly what happens... & no my accessory lights do not come on... unless I turn it all the way like I'm ganna crank it but I actually don't crank it.. at that point they turn on & stay on. Would that also explain why my engine died.. I guess the Ign. switch wasn't sending a signal indicating that the key wasn't/was turned on?..
I should have noticed something last month when I turned the key off, pulled the key out... and opened the door & it beeped like the key was still in.
Thanks for all your help. I will order the switch tomorrow from Honda... they should have it in by Wednesday or Thursday. Thanks again.
Originally posted by POH
I should have noticed something last month when I turned the key off, pulled the key out... and opened the door & it beeped like the key was still in.
Thanks for all your help. I will order the switch tomorrow from Honda... they should have it in by Wednesday or Thursday. Thanks again.
Ceasar
thats been happening to mine since i bought it!! and my buddys lude! should i be worried???
Well, my radio and cigarette lighter don't work sometimes when I turn on my car. I have to turn the key to start and back to on to get them to work while the car is already on. One time the car shut off on my while backing out of my driveway. No power whatsoever to anything inside the car and the alarm even acted as if I had taken the key out. The car started right back up though.
Some other times after I take the key out after turning off the car and I open the driver's side door, the car keeps beeping as if the key were still in the ignition. One smack to the bottom of the steering column near the ignition switch makes the beeping stock.
And no, I haven't replaced the part yet, but from the symptoms, it seems like its the electrical portion of the switch. I'll get around to doing it someday... probably when the car dies on me at a very inconvenient time.
EDIT: Oops, you had it figured out... but oh well, just for future reference for anyone else
Yeah that would be the reason why your engine died, it happened to me a few times while arriving at a stop. At first I could play with the key a bit and it would still work but after awhile, nothing at all. Also by the accessories I meant, is the accessory position on the switch working? It's the position between Off and On I usually can only catch it when I go from On to Off but stop in between. Mine was still working and the start position also, engine would crank but whenever I let the key go the engine would die.
Yea some times the Acc. lights work in between the on & off position... sometimes they don't. I think Honda indicates it with an O .. l... or ll signs by the key hole.
My lude stalled when I to was reversing out of the driveway. I'm ordering the Ign. switch today... but it won't come in till tomorrow ... or thursday.. mean while... if the car acts like it's ganna die... (it's an automatic) can I giggle or mess with the key to keep the car running (but I don't mean keeping it in the crank [on] position)???
So I guess the only one so far responding, that has replaced the switch is Forbidden.....
Forbidden, on a difficulty scale of 1 - 5 (1 being the easiest & 5 the hardest),
What would you rate this replacement ....??
It sounds (& from what I've seen under the dash (where the harnesses are located) it looks like a 2.
Let us know forbidden.... thanks Guys.
If it was running fine, then it got sluggish, and all that stuff. Then it is your alternator. Same thing happend to me. I would be driving down the road and then my radio would go off, all my lights would become dim,k then eventually turn off. Just replace your alternator, recharge the battery and you will me good to go.
Originally posted by preludestud11 If it was running fine, then it got sluggish, and all that stuff. Then it is your alternator. Same thing happend to me. I would be driving down the road and then my radio would go off, all my lights would become dim,k then eventually turn off. Just replace your alternator, recharge the battery and you will me good to go.
Rich
Nah... I seriously doubt it's the Bat. or the Alt. .... like I said above... I jumped it with my wifes Accord... & I still have the dead start.... if it was either one of those (Bat/Alt) it would have started. I can get it to run... it's just the lights that go out... & the car gets sluggish when that happens.. but then they come back on. I think with an Alt or Bat... once they go out... they go out.
Originally posted by POH Yea some times the Acc. lights work in between the on & off position... sometimes they don't. I think Honda indicates it with an O .. l... or ll signs by the key hole.
My lude stalled when I to was reversing out of the driveway. I'm ordering the Ign. switch today... but it won't come in till tomorrow ... or thursday.. mean while... if the car acts like it's ganna die... (it's an automatic) can I giggle or mess with the key to keep the car running (but I don't mean keeping it in the crank [on] position)???
So I guess the only one so far responding, that has replaced the switch is Forbidden.....
Forbidden, on a difficulty scale of 1 - 5 (1 being the easiest & 5 the hardest),
What would you rate this replacement ....??
It sounds (& from what I've seen under the dash (where the harnesses are located) it looks like a 2.
Let us know forbidden.... thanks Guys.
It's not hard at all to replace, IIRC you only need a long philips screwdriver and maybe a 10mm socket and that's it. Other than that you just have to unplug and replug 2 connectors in the underdash fusebox. On a scale 1 to 5 I'd say 1.5 because those connectors can be a pita to remove sometimes.
Originally posted by preludestud11 If it was running fine, then it got sluggish, and all that stuff. Then it is your alternator. Same thing happend to me. I would be driving down the road and then my radio would go off, all my lights would become dim,k then eventually turn off. Just replace your alternator, recharge the battery and you will me good to go.
He could always check the voltage of the battery while the car is started to see if the battery is getting drained but I think if he can just restart the car right away after it stalls then the battery and alternator must be good.
Im telling you ints the alternator! I would be driving my car then all my lights go dim, the radio turns off, everysingle light on the car dies, the car gets sluggish, and finally when the battery dead it runs like **** then just stops. I pull over have someone jumpstart me and I recharge my batter with theirs, then i start moving again. Then the same thing happens again. Its the alternator!
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