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Old 12-05-2003, 03:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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H22 Prep List

I made a list of what I needed and some what I wanted and can afford at the time of install. If I need any other parts, please add.

JDM H22 engine, ecu
H23 Tranny for now
H23 wiring harness will be modded
New Belts
Blue Vtec Valve Cover and gasket
NGK Spark plugs and wires
Greddy Evo Exhaust

I can swap my CAI over, and I am going to use the stock headers until I can afford some Greddys. I then plan on getting a VFAC. I am going to have the install done in the middle of February.
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Old 12-05-2003, 03:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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-give old h23 to nick for spare parts
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Old 12-05-2003, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I might have to turn in the H23 as a core.
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Old 12-05-2003, 05:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As a core? What the?

H23s are worth plenty of cash to the right person if its in good shape. Looks like you are only getting a H22 longblock. If you have to give them your H23, I wouldnt pay over $800 cash for the H22.
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I will have to give them the H23, and they will charge me 1k for the engine. I am going to keep my H23 DC headers, and put the stocks ones on the H23 before I turn it in. I will be able to get some cash back for the headers.

As for the H23, I just want to get rid of the POS.
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I am also going to change all the seals while the engine is out too. Am I leaving anything out at all?
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Old 12-05-2003, 10:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Take the manual tensioner off the h23 and install it on your new h22.

Install new a cam seal, an insulating Intake Manifold Gasket and port match the intake to the head (if you dont P&P the whole thing).

Might as well lighten the flywheel and change the clutch as well while the tranny is off.
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Are you going to be doing this swap yourself, or paying a shop to do the install?

There are FOUR sources of additional costs I can think of:

1) HELM'S MANUAL. If you are doing this swap yourself and don't already own one, stop reading NOW and start tracking one down (they are in short supply right now). The writeup in the FAQ is ment as a SUPPLEMENT to the Helm's (I should know, since I wrote it). I consider myself fairly mechanicly inclined, and I'd have been lost without my trusty black book.

2)It's easy to overlook the "little" costs, which snowball quickly. Have you made allowances for fluids (oil, trans, coolant, clutch), and filters (oil, fuel)? You will probably end up having to cut the radiator and heater hoses when pulling the old engine, so you will need new hoses and clamps. Heck, even if you can salvage them, replacing the 10 year old hoses with the engine out is LOADS easier than the alternative. Have you included funds for wire, heat shrink, wire loom and a soldering iron (if you dont have one)? I'd be wary of trusting an engine harness assembled without the previsouly mentioned items. Also, you probably want to pick up degreaser, engine cleaner, shop towels, rubber gloves, spill absorber, etc. All these things are pretty cheap by themselves, but it's a nice chunk of change to buy it all.

3) You will also probably run into some unexpected costs. Your engine could show up with a busted VTEC solenoid or TPS. Maybe you will find out a motor mount, ball joint, or wheel bearing is bad while you are monkeying around. I had to replace the clutch cylinders ($130) in the middle of my swap (which fail pretty often on 4g's). I also found out one of my axles was junk in the process of putting the suspension back together, adding $70 to the bill. I also spent about $20 on new bolts and hangers for the exhaust. Inspect as many of the components you plan to be reusing (bushings, mounts, sensors, etc) NOW to avoid as many suprises as possible.

4) Do you have all the tools necessary (or have access to them)? You need a fairly uncommon size of socket if you end up having to pull an axle. Will you need to rent an engine hoist? A ball joint seperator makes suspension disassembly a lot easier. Accessing the rear motor mount requires some swivel and extensions for your ratchet. Jack stands, a floor jack, hoist chains, a nice rubber mallet. . .it all adds up.


Personally, I would skip the fancy valve cover and plug wires and use that money to replace a few other "wear" items:
  • replace all vaccum lines
  • Fuel Filter
  • Dist. cap and rotor
  • Plug bore 0-rings
  • new heater and radiator hoses
  • maybe a new O2 sensor
  • remanufactured cluth master and slave cylinders (if needed)

I don't mean to scare you, as the swap is fairly straight-forward if you have all the supplies and tools you need. You just need to be honest with yourself about how much all the "little" items raise the cost. I went about $200 over budget, and I made a pretty comprehensive spreadsheet before starting. Add up the total cost of all your components, tools, and upgrades, then increase that amount by about 15%. That should keep you from getting stranded in the middle because you can't afford to replace some miscelanious parts you didnt count on. Hope this helped, and feel free to contact me with any questions. I've done this swap once, written 3 write ups about it, and helped about 4 other members get their swaps running.
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I am actually going to have the shop install it because I cant afford to have problems after the install. I helped put my buddy's eninge in, and we had misc problems. Thanks for all the advice, I think I know what needs to be done. I will probably not get the valve cover right away, then

I have an ACT clutch and a brand new clutch master cylinder already. I might look into a flywheel then.
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i want the h23 head for my f22b!
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