Hey Guys, I am getting ready to start building my prelude up and I am looking for a cumulative list of parts that you've used, and why you would recommend them to me.
I'll be looking at:
Intake
Headers
Cat-back and muffler
Cams
Cam Sprockets
Pulleys
Valves/springs/retainers
Suspension including tie rods etc..
Camber kits
fuel runner and injectors
Yeah, I've got some money to finally play with, but my budget with now is 2500, and I'll get another 2500 this summer, so just keep that in mind.
I am considering buying a JDM head and selling my usdm h22 since it's a little old.
I am asking JUST THE PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE to contribute.. I don't need any new-jacks with 3 posts to come tell me some crap about their ebay header to exhaust they got for $100 or whatever.
Thanks y'all
a little more information might help people give you the best ideas. what are your goals with the car? Drag? Auto-x? Fast DD? Im assuming that you want to stick to N/A by the list of parts you put together. One person you might want to talk to isnt on here he is on Preludepower.com his name on there is 98vtec he has a really nice N/A set-up on his 5th gen
^his motor is also not a stock block. Modified block with a stock head/cams.
and like ^ said. what are your goals? 2500 isnt really that much for a build. Maybe some cams a tune, and a nice header + 3" exhaust should yield some good results
Yeah I am looking at N/A, and while I know that 2500 isn't much right now, it's a good jumping block.
Here are my goals..
I want a fast(er) DD, something that I CAN track, but is still streetable..
If I could build hard, take my time and spend wisely, I'd like to see 300hp at the finishing point of performance.
What I'd like to do:
Buy a JDM head (or full motor if the blocks aren't compatible to usdm).
Bore to 89mm
Buy crower cams, valves, pistons/rods/rings, srpings and retainers.. stage 2 all the way.
Buy a nice intake, DC headers, and apexi or mugen (or mugen ripoff) catback. Also a new IM.
Buy a hondata FMS
Then the random BS like radiator, shortshifter, suspension etc.. the fun little add ons.
But really I'd like a daily driver that has some balls, 'nuff said...
Yeah I am looking at N/A, and while I know that 2500 isn't much right now, it's a good jumping block.
Here are my goals..
I want a fast(er) DD, something that I CAN track, but is still streetable..
If I could build hard, take my time and spend wisely, I'd like to see 300hp at the finishing point of performance.
What I'd like to do:
Buy a JDM head (or full motor if the blocks aren't compatible to usdm).
Bore to 89mm
Buy crower cams, valves, pistons/rods/rings, srpings and retainers.. stage 2 all the way.
Buy a nice intake, DC headers, and apexi or mugen (or mugen ripoff) catback. Also a new IM.
Buy a hondata FMS
Then the random BS like radiator, shortshifter, suspension etc.. the fun little add ons.
But really I'd like a daily driver that has some balls, 'nuff said...
I hope that's specific enough.
Thanks
Nate
I would go with Skunk2 Pro series instead of the crowers, and for it to make 300hp the DC header wouldn't do. Maybe look into HyTech, RMF, can't remember what the other company was. Those are on the expensive side, but then again there isn't a cheap way to make 300hp NA. Might want to concentrate on a lot of head work and flow testing. Bolt-ons alone will not get you to 300.
You want 300 hp and want to stay N/A. Correct me if i'm wrong but thats seems FAR from possible. I think the most I've seen from a H22 is somewhere in the 240's whp I guess that could be around 300 hp at the crank but you're going to need alot more than $2500. Maybe something like 10k. I would say a realistic goal for a N/A set up would be 200 - 210 whp if you plan on keeping it a DD. 200 whp would be hell-a-fun in a prelude not really a need for more IMO.
You want 300 hp and want to stay N/A. Correct me if i'm wrong but thats seems FAR from possible. I think the most I've seen from a H22 is somewhere in the 240's whp I guess that could be around 300 hp at the crank but you're going to need alot more than $2500. Maybe something like 10k. I would say a realistic goal for a N/A set up would be 200 - 210 whp if you plan on keeping it a DD. 200 whp would be hell-a-fun in a prelude not really a need for more IMO.
You are correct for the most part my friend. There are several people that have gotten close to 300whp, therefore I believe that 300whp is possible (judging by their setups). Majority of the modified h22s are around the 200-220 whp range due to the cost of going any higher. And yes $2500 won't be anywhere near enough to complete a project like this. Lastly you are again correct that a 200 whp would be hell-a-fun in a prelude
by a h22a with lsd tranny, take apart the engine..
send the block to get resleeved with steel sleeves.
when you put it back together.. buy all forged internals.
slap it in your car. turbo that hoe. 15 lbs a boost.
full Tein damper kit off a password jdm...
etc etc.
get a mugen bumper... yellow fogs, hids, jdm headlights w\ amber corners.
You have seen many 300+ N/A H22s? Hmm... Maybe if you go the nitrous route you can briefly see those numbers
Password HDM and Hmotors prices are pretty in line with the market...
You will easily burn through that first $2500 on a swap. If you can get a complete motor / tranny / ECU package, for, lets say, $1700 and another $300 to deliver, thats $2k. Plus a new clutch ($200), water pump / timing belt ($80), manual tensioner conversion ($100), plus assorted seals and gaskets ($60). Are you doing the work yourself? If not, I have no idea how much labor is. If you are, you need to factor in tools you may not have (sockets, wrenches, engine hoist).
Of course you can also skip all that basic maintenance and toss the motor in the car as is (not recommended).
AEM cold air.
Port and polish Intake manifold.
Supertech valve train.
Type s cams
High compression Mahle pistons
eagle h beams
Balanced crank
Mugen, smsp, custom headers
Custom 3" exhaust
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
rc 440 or 550cc injectors
Im more of a turbo fan, but i think this setup that i just made off the top of my head can get you to 250-275hp
I'm not saying by any means "Many", but several (5-6 in several years).
I'll definitely be doing all the work myself.
I've got access with a very well stocked shop at school and a performance minded master tech as a teacher.
Give me an idea of basic maintenance before installing a new engine.. I've rebuilt an engine to NEW status, after remachining and reassembling the internals, but never dropped in a used engine, let alone a foreign market engine.
Thanks lilbill, that was kinda what I was asking.. I am hoping to get started soon.. I REALLY wanna stay away from turbo since I won't have a heavy, constant cashflow until after school.
Oh shut up! Haha, I'm telllin' y'all I am able to work in a VERY well stocked shop.. tranny jacks, everything you'd ever need and plenty of space to work freely.. I didn't take into account my unique opportunity.
Anyway, I'm willing to admit I'm wrong about NA preludes.. I feel very confident that I've seen the alleged preludes, but if you guys are positive that I'm worng, then I must be.
Anyways, now that the ragging is over and I've humbled myself before you...
Just playin' y'all :-p
I am reading more about turboing a car.. it doesnt seem like it'd be such a horrible direction to go in the future.. for now, I'll focus on the swap and basics like intake, exhaust and suspension stuff.. I'll catch up to the big boys someday though!
Thanks to all for the advice (and chewing out :-p) and it looks like I've got some homework to do!
I say spend your $2500 on a good LSD, suspension setup, and some good tires and go autocross you'll soon realize that you won't need much more hp to have a great time with your car.
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