my friend had a freak motor... 93 lude vtec ran 14.5 with only iceman CAI. timeslip to prove .
i'm thinking i have one as well... all i have is an iceman CAI and i've yet to take it to the strip but i'm expecting around the same range considering the cars i've taken. i ran my friend's 5th gen with a greddy evo catback, dc header, and msd blaster ignition and inched from him. oh yeah, my car is a 1993 w/ 208,000 miles.
i know a guy who ran *constant* 14.7~14.8 with an intake on regular GS-R.
but then again, this doesn't judge on whether the car was freak or not.
but I heard so many cases. there has to be. It could happen though if you think about it.
Machine fuked up a little, and bored the engine a little more. maybe they slightly increased compression somehow during the process. maybe everything was put together so perfectly somehow, without even an one millimeter difference. which provided best condition for the car the whole time.
who the F knows whats going on, and what could've happened. we will never know.
all we know is that sometimes,
Same Car A,
Car A+1 runs 14.8 with same driver, same condition, same mod
Car A+2 runs 15.2 with same driver, same condition, same mod.
or
Car A+1 can take 400 whp on stock motor
Car A+2 took 200whp on stock motor and blew.
i dunnno i bet the maintenance and machining specs are extremely tight at honda manufacturing plants. to accidently overbore or somehow use a higher compression piston would be very unlikely. their Q/A department probably wouldn't let a freak motor by. If their operation wasn't run so meticulously, honda wouldn't have a reputation for having such reliable cars. I agree with ^^^
i think heres such a thing, preluderacer023 is running a jdm h22, runnin 13.7 and all he had at the time was i/h/e/ and untuned vafc and some other lil things around. I saw that car run, and it freaky for sure !
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why does the h22a1 kick the h22a4's ass so much? i know the h22a1's block is a closed deck but that would only make a difference when building the block right?
maybe a freak motor is a motor that was correctly broken in with its first 500 miles becuz theres alot of people that problee ****ed that up
This guy got it right. To tell if its a freak Motor IMO is by Compression testing it. If the numbers are 240-250 on your motor on our stock 10:1 Motors that tells you its a bad *****.
My JDM h22a seems to pull hard... I was cruising up a long gradual hill and a 5th gen came up beside me and dropped it down to 3rd cruising around 70km/h , he dropped it down first, so I followed suit, and as soon as I put it into 3rd, I just pulled on him right past no problem. Like he wasn't even movin. short ram intake , test pipe / 2.25 exhaust.
i agree with kw and fuego. If for instance an engine was "Accidentally" bored more than spec, then if anything, it'd burn a $hit load more oil than the avg. joe motors. I think break in is underrated, and these days not a lot of people hold to the belief.
Yep, i hold to breaking in a motor properly based on my last motors condition in my 5th gen. It was one hell of a strong motor. Bought the car new and babied it for the first 1000 miles. After that point i just beat on her and she took it like a champ. Ran 14.5 with just i/e/test pipe.
I think I have an un-freak motor. My car is sooo slow. I think all those people with the freak motors got some extra parts, that they forgot to put in mine. 18.5 at 76 mph
hmm, i think i HAD a freak motor. I had a nice high compression test. Also using all B pistons. Good clean Injectors, always changing oil and plugs. Obvously Mods help, seriously. I think Just because you have Bolt ons its not always going to make you that much faster. its just the correct Combonation. The setup i had really seemed to work. still untuned and i could easily beat a tuned h22a. Its hard to Gauge on track numbers. Its all about a second gear pull. You race a Car from a rolling start from second gear, then you will see how much faster your car is, also gearing is a factor.
I honestly think the car has kind of a personality of its own. Sometimes its lazy sometimes now, i guess if im thining that way, you can get a stupid lazy car or a smart energetic car. Whatever, im just waking up.
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some high mileage motors that have carbon build up in the cylinders but are still taken care of can put out a bit more power since the carbon buildup raises compression. This is one example of a freak motor.. it can also depend on the maintence throughout its life. fluids and how often they are changed, condition of the daily driving etc.
but there are some freak motors straight from factory, ie: 99 Civic SI, there where some very fast ones and some slower ones when these first came out
there are GSR's that are babied with high high mileage that just hall ass with min. bolt ons
hmm, i dont see how a motor can come freak from the factory. I mean seriously, were talking about 100's of an inch here. I can see how an engine with A pistons will be weaker than B pistons. But other than that? COmpression. If the engine has good compression then it ""should"" be stronger. I cannot think of any other component that would make it that much faster.
Im not sure if i buy the whole carbon build story. I really didnt have that much carbon on mine, it was still strong as hell.
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