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Old 03-26-2003, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Explain symtoms of bearing knock/ spun bearing...

What exactly happens when you spin a bearing. Is it like... boom it's spun... a short time later... boom your engine is gone? Or is it something that can go on for a long time. I am hearing a little bit of a knock/tap. I don't think I'm hearing valve tap because I adjusted them <3000 miles ago. It has been making this noise since I got it 8 months ago.... but lately it's been bothering me because i've been reading about people having spun bearings. I also have a weird tapping/vibrating noise before the car is completely warmed up. That noise sounds like it's on the left side of my valve cover by the distributor. (I already replaced the distributor... that wasn't it) I'm paranoid about every little thing so I just want to hear some input from you guys. Could I have a spun bearing for that long? Could the kncok be a bearing in like the alternater or water pump or something like that? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Old 03-27-2003, 08:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Someone has to be able to tell me something. It's not real loud... and I can only really hear it at the lowest idle point. It sounds like it's coming from the belt side of my engine... It's not consistent all the time either... it could do 3 right in a row... like boom boom boom... then go for a little a few seconds before doing it again...could I just be hearing like an idler pulley or something?? Please help...
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Old 03-27-2003, 09:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My car would tap around 3-4 thou and it would go away, 4 days later the car was screwed. So if it hasn't gone yet, its not goin anytime soon.
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When mine spun a bearing, it sounded like something was trying to escape from the engine. lol
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Old 03-28-2003, 08:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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to help you more

Is the noise more noticeable at low rpms or high rpms. Is the noise better described a knocking, tapping or etc describe when it is most noticeable. Is there any performance issues related with it. Excessive oil consumotion going on anything like that. If you can get specific I can help you out alot better.
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Old 03-28-2003, 09:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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low tapping and yes when mine went my engine went into safe., and when it really went the engine siezed.
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Low rpm's. And it's like a tap/knock. Kinda both at the same time. Ancient ... what do you mean you engine went into safe? I'm confused. There are no performance issues involved. It runs good. Doesn't use any oil or anything. Any Ideas?
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You have a h23 right? Well anyway it sounds like vavle tap. You can try thicker oil that sometimes helps it. Ruling it out because you adjusted your valves is were you went wrong. Its a common problem with h23's cantdrive and I have uncureable vavle tap but the car has ran perfect for the last 15k. If you want to get rid of it pull the head and replace the valve seats.
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Old 03-29-2003, 07:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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No what happen is my bearing spun, engine went into safe, i got it home and by the time I got it home, i cracked my rad, and siezed the engine, ie it wouldn't stay running anymore.....
I rebuilt the engine works fine now.

And what do you mean no perforamnce issues...... ITS YOUR ROD BEARING.
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I meant no performance issues such as it runs good. Doesn't use any oil. etc. And are you sure it's my rod bearing? I thought if it went my engine would've blown a long time ago?? thanks for the help though... any other thoughts?
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here are my thoughts again

It sounds like a rod bearing to me too. Another thing to help would be an automotive stethoscope and listening for where the noise is being generated. Or just take oil pan off and get to your rod caps check your bearings for any pitting scuffing and shiny ness plastigage your rod caps and check manufacturers spec see if you are in spec. I can help you out more after you check that stuff and if you want me to describe procedures can do that too. But another good point is no performance issues and oil consumption would make me believe its valve train related but a ticking sound is normally heard there so makes me move toward s bearing for knocking noise. Also the engine gradually dies from the rod bearing going bad it jsut dont happen like bam its done.
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I think I'm going to set up an appointment to get it looked at on monday. Damnit I just lowered it today too and I'm not even going to get to enjoy it yet If I caught this before any major damage was done how much should it cost to get fixed?? If it's a rod bearing I was to get it fixed asap so my engine doesn't blow.
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something else to keep in mind

how many miles you have on the car if I lived near I would check it out for ya but yes I do travel also so may consider it as long as it aint to far who knows it may be valvetrain cause you also did say tapping but knocking is bad. The best thing to do is dont worry to much about it I have had lots of problems in the past it will be okay. I hope I can help more
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Old 03-30-2003, 07:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have 70k Miles on the car. It could be valve train related but i just can't say for sure. Sometimes the sound is a destinct tap... but then sometimes it sounds more like a knock. I guess the tap could be loud enough to make it sound like a knock at certain times. Yesterday I was standing on my buddy's porch and my car was running in the driveway... and he said "it sounds like you need one of your valves adjusted" and it did... at that time. But last week I was parked at the YMCA with my car running for a min and one of the guys I work with was walking in and when I got out he said "Does that thing have a knock?" Well unfortunately I'm a long way from Raleigh. I think like 10 hours. My friend's dad is a mechanic but doesn't really do internal engine work... but I asked him if anyone around here did internal engine work on honda and he said "No one that's any good" So I guess that means I'm pretty much forced with taking it to the Dealer that's about 20 miles away. Should I drive it?? If it where a rod bearing... where would be the best place to listen for it? If I stick my screwdriver on my oil pan should I be able to hear it from there?? Like I said before. I'm pretty sure it's on the right side (the belts side) of my engine. The only time I can pick up the knock when I'm listening with my screwdriver is right below the valve cover when I'm standing facing the engine from the drivers side. I really don't have anywhere I can go to tear off the oil pan and check stuff. And it just snowed today (it was 70 degrees a few days ago) So the best I can do is listen I guess. Thanks for your help. Keep it up.
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hey man no prob

for the noise say its coming from timing side if it were knocking all the time I would drive it but babby it if its 20 miles away take to dealer if it has engine mods on it and such they are gonna try to rape you show them you know your **** and they will back off sometimes I would do it soon before something where to happen. If you want to be on the safe side tow it especially if you have free towing. There is nothing really you can do but listen and see where the noise is louder cause noise travels may sound like its there but you have to listen for the loudest point fyi get a automotive sthescope they cheap like 15 bucks helps out alot. I hope you fix your problem and I will continue to give you my views on your issues thanks alot.
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Well I'm dropping off my lude at the dealer tuesday night so they can start on it first thing wednesday morning. My poor baby... she has to go to the doctor I hope she is ok... oh well... I guess life goes on and she'll be as good as new when she comes back I'll keep u updated and see what you think about what they say. Thanks a lot.
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no prob man dont let them boss you around show umm you know your stuff and they will be nice
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If you've driven it around, and the engine hasn't ripped itself to pieces, it's not a bad bearing. Sounds like the aforementioned valve tap to me. H23s tap. That's just the way it is. Mine is bad. Still runs low 15s though.
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Well I got it back from the shop. Wonderful news. The knocking tapping noise was my timing belt. It was loose...??? I didn't get to talk to the service manager much but he said they just tightened it back up and adjusted my valves...again. Now she is quiet as can be. I didn't know H23's could be that quiet Now all I hear is my tanabe racing medallion The whole trip only cost me $55. He said it was good I brought it in though because if I woulda let it go it would eventually ruined the timing belt and we all know what happens after that. Thanks a lot for all your help guys. I appreciate it. I'm so happy it turned out the way it did.
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good stuff

well damn I can add that to funny noises good things ended out that way.
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