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Old 10-02-2004, 05:45 PM   #41 (permalink)
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half of what i paid....haha maybe you dont know what i paid for my lude....so build it and spray and show me how much you can pass me by..whatever, the h23 isnt a great design, and ive owned both....and wow you ran a 2.1 what was your 1/4 time that run??? good job on the 2.1 though...so your 2.1 means squat to me...everyone wants to justify their h23...some of you guys act like that .1 displacement gives you a big block V8 or something...to each thier own, but the h23 will never compare to the h22...and that includes Turbo applications...the fastest honda motors are turbo H22...but whatever...and im confident that i can outrun a bolt on h23 even with NOS
lol I think you must have some type of an emotional complex..

I don't have to justify my H23, If I want to go fast, I have a motorcycle

Look at the dyno graphs and the torque curve, that is what we are talking about.. you dont have to compared it to a V8, its all there man. It doesn't really matter what "the motor" is capable of, it matters what you have! I am pretty sure the H23 is just as capable as the H22 when it comes to FI.. It's just a matter of money, that is all.
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hmm this gives me hope, maybe i will leave this alone. i have an auto yes a crime, but you know what i didn't pay for my car, it was a present to me. soooooooo you got to work with what your giving. if i can get enough power to keep up with h22 then i will be happy.

but yea this is not a h22 vs h23 thread. it just show how much powers you can get from cams. and 10~15 hp from cams, then ppl will do that, and not swap motor. unlike some ppl, we over here in CA, can't do motor swap as easily!!

so if it hidden and quiet it good by me.
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half of what i paid....haha maybe you dont know what i paid for my lude

unless you stole the h22... im pretty sure what h22's go for

....so build it and spray and show me how much you can pass me by...

ok our 1/8th is diff. is 0.265 sec. and our trap speed is a diff. 2.61 mph, and that was w/ my old setup

whatever, the h23 isnt a great design, and ive owned both....and wow you ran a 2.1 what was your 1/4 time that run??? good job on the 2.1 though...so your 2.1 means squat to me...everyone wants to justify their h23

look, it seems that you are the one justifying your h22... im i the one saying one engine is better than the other? no that is you


...some of you guys act like that .1 displacement gives you a big block V8 or something...

dont forget the stroke is also different

to each thier own, but the h23 will never compare to the h22...and that includes Turbo applications...the fastest honda motors are turbo H22...

oh man that is another subject...

but whatever...and im confident that i can outrun a bolt on h23 even with NOS

its funny you say that when you are on the other side of the country
hey what up hien
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Ive looked on Crowers website and dont see them, where do u get them?... also most cams i see there are 700+ where is everyone gettin 400 from?
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yeah Mikey, I think they still haven't gotten around to listing the H23 cams yet.
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lol...whatever floats your boat man, but im already going to be approaching lower 13s, and will probably be installing a direct port shot on my car...until the motor is built....my main comment was on the fact that so many people think the h23 has a bigger flatter torque curve, and ive got dynos that prove otherwise , not only did my car make more torque, it did it at nearly the same rpm..as have a lot of other cars.......and i dont really care where your from..., if your setup works so great, show me times, i know a few people from out west, and they have put together good h22s..and have good times to show for them...but whatever......
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..lets see those dyno graphs then.
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ill have to find a scanner to copy my dyno from a while ago.......my vtec engages at 4500 rpms...and my peak tourqe is at 46...but stays close to that till almost 6k...and the numbers are higher...even stock the h22 makes more torque but the h23 has it at a slightly lower rpm...everyone thinks you have to rev out the h22, but thats because the h22 is coming on strong at 5800 and not falling on its face at that rpm like the h23 does....
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yea peak numbers dont mean ANYTHING... its the torque curve that matters...

if your h22 has 140 lb ft. of torque at 2500 rpms like the dyno graph of the h23 above, then I'll give you props, but I don't see that happening
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I'm going to lock this thread if the H22/H23 crap doesn't stop.
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^^^ might as well, it is already ruined
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yea peak numbers dont mean ANYTHING... its the torque curve that matters...

if your h22 has 140 lb ft. of torque at 2500 rpms like the dyno graph of the h23 above, then I'll give you props, but I don't see that happening
kind of like i dont see you running mid to high thirteens huh...asses
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kind of like i dont see you running mid to high thirteens huh...asses
well thats not my goal, I don't even wish to hit mid 13's, handling is my main thing.. I really don't care for straight line speed lol, sorry. Oh yea, I have a bike that will run mid 11's all day... not that I bought the bike for that reason anyways, b/c there are alof of sub liter SS bikes out there that run mid/high 10's, but since you wanted to bring it up
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come one guys please stop i dont want this thread locked
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