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Old 05-24-2006, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Different H22's

Well I'm getting ready to start putting together some money for my motor and I was browsing through this site and I was wondering if this 97 H22 will fit in my 92 Prelude. http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30017

Will it still bolt up? and is it better than this H22 for 92-96
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the one for the 97 will be OBDII and will a) need to have an ODBI workaround and b) be harder to tune because of that.

stick to the years that your car is.
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Old 05-25-2006, 09:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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or you can just wire it OBD I and then run it OBD I and you can tune or whatever OBD I style for it.

you wouldn'tbe able to use its stock ecu then though, but you c ould use your old p13 ecu from your h22a1.

you could also get the euro-r h22a (same makes 220ps) and wire that OBD I too

i know personally cuase i had a 4th gen with euro-r (2000 motor from japan) that i had wired OBD I
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where did you get your motor at?
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waste of ash, the type s is 20more hp , with is basically type s cams and pistons, and the tranny is ATTS, witch is eletronic lsd, if you want it to work you have to run a second ecu for that, its heavier and not as nice as lsd, and its very hard to tune with hondata almsot impossible, another thing if u wan tmore then 250whp atts will fail on you its crap, for 2500 u can buy a m2b4 h22jdm swap, which is real lsd and 200hp at the crank, 20 less, and its obd1 ull save almost 2grand over the type s swap, at inlinefour.com u can get the type valvetrain complete and pistons BRAND NEW for 1250 out the door, so lets see hmm....u just got a better tranny, and same hp for uhh 800$ cheaper ? anyways just my 2cents
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waste of ash, the type s is 20more hp , with is basically type s cams and pistons, and the tranny is ATTS, witch is eletronic lsd, if you want it to work you have to run a second ecu for that, its heavier and not as nice as lsd, and its very hard to tune with hondata almsot impossible, another thing if u wan tmore then 250whp atts will fail on you its crap, for 2500 u can buy a m2b4 h22jdm swap, which is real lsd and 200hp at the crank, 20 less, and its obd1 ull save almost 2grand over the type s swap, at inlinefour.com u can get the type valvetrain complete and pistons BRAND NEW for 1250 out the door, so lets see hmm....u just got a better tranny, and same hp for uhh 800$ cheaper ? anyways just my 2cents
you need to learn a little bit more about ATTS, it is NOT "electonic lsd". it is a torque transfer system that automatically transfers the torque to the outside wheel when turning. LSD makes sure that both wheels are spinning the same at all times... not the same thing.
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EuroR and Type S are two different things. The EuroR does not use ATTS, it uses a shorter geared transmission with an LSD. It also has a much better intake manifold/throttle body on top of the cams and 11:1 compression. The M2B4 is not as good a transmission as the EuroR tranny because of the gearing differences and the EuroR might also have stronger synchros. I'm not sure if it uses the carbon coated ones or not. The weight of the EuroR and m2b4 trannys is probably almost identical since both have LSD's. As for tuning, the EuroR runs fine wired OBD1 on the USDM or JDM P13 ECU and runs great on a Hondata S100 with only 1 hour of tuning. I've used all 3 ECU's with this motor.
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having driven a euro-r i'd just like to add that the difference is there. the transmission, apart from the gearing, feels exactly the same. i'd expect it to have the same design weaknesses that the prelude one does.
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Some Honda transmissions came with carbon coated synchros. You can't feel if they are there or not just by driving.
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