Cams question Web vs. Gude - Honda Prelude Forum

Si4WS · 10-22-2002, 02:16 PM

Okay I'm ready to send my extra set of stock H23 cams out to be grinded. I've been talking to Web Cam and Gude .

Web cam recommends stock duration because of valve lash and 10 degrees more lift for around $300.

Web Cam grind is valve lift .390 duration at 230 degrees and DURATION @.050 DEGREES 210 -

Gude grind is Intake LIFT - 0.420 DURATION - 258
Exhaust LIFT - 0.421 DURATION - 258 for around $550.

So what should I do? I need some help here please.

Machine Head · 10-22-2002, 03:13 PM

if you don't know how I feel about reground cams you should check the FAQ, I think you'll find some information that may help you

Preyluder · 10-22-2002, 04:31 PM

But, there have been many people who get their factory cams reground, and never experience problems. So you can look at it either way.

93h22a · 10-23-2002, 08:44 AM

do you have any other choice?(not regrind)

VeeTec · 10-23-2002, 10:21 AM

I had reground cams and never had any problems. Web cams will do them to whatever specs you give them, that will work. Make sure to get springs and retainers as well.

SLICK96 · 10-23-2002, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by 93h22a
do you have any other choice?(not regrind)

Nope... not unless you've got an H22. Then you have the world of options not available the the H23 crowd

J

Preyluder · 10-23-2002, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by SLICK96

Nope... not unless you've got an H22. Then you have the world of options not available the the H23 crowd

J

Yeah, us h23'ers are slaves to the Cam-god.

SLICK96 · 10-23-2002, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by Preyluder89

Yeah, us h23'ers are slaves to the Cam-god.

We're slaves to the WE-ONLY-MAKE-PARTS-FOR-VTECS ... THE CARS-HONDA MADE-LESS-OF-THAN-H23S gods... I'll never understand why this happens, just like I'll never understand Spoon's work ethics in making parts for more than a few cars, and then permanently discontinuing them. Oh well, hehe.

Sometimes you just have to laugh.

J

Si4WS · 10-23-2002, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by VeeTec
I had reground cams and never had any problems. Web cams will do them to whatever specs you give them, that will work. Make sure to get springs and retainers as well.

Where can one get springs and retainers for the H23? I heard somthing about using the teg LS aftermarket valve train but I'm not sure. Also, Web cam said that they do not recomend aftermarket valve train for the cam profile they use for the H23.

Preyluder · 10-24-2002, 06:01 PM

This is really confusing.

prelude2005 · 10-24-2002, 06:05 PM

might wanna read this thread...just in case

Why you should !!NOT!! buy reground cams.

VeeTec · 10-24-2002, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by Si4WS

Where can one get springs and retainers for the H23? I heard somthing about using the teg LS aftermarket valve train but I'm not sure. Also, Web cam said that they do not recomend aftermarket valve train for the cam profile they use for the H23.

I am not sure why they recommend that. I would think you would be better off with a slightly higher rate spring. I am not sure about the H23, but they do provide them for the H22. I don't know where they are available, but I woulfd think someone has them.

Preyluder · 10-25-2002, 02:43 PM

I'm sure both companies we're discussing has them.

SilverLudeSi · 10-25-2002, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Si4WS

Where can one get springs and retainers for the H23? I heard somthing about using the teg LS aftermarket valve train but I'm not sure. Also, Web cam said that they do not recomend aftermarket valve train for the cam profile they use for the H23.

Yeah that's what portflow did with mine since they couldn't find any springs/retainers specifically for the h23. Because of the spring bases on stock h23's, you can't run dual springs. By swapping the spring bases for ls ones, they could put in stiffer dual springs. Here's some pics.

Si4WS · 10-25-2002, 04:48 PM

/\ /\

prelude2005 · 10-25-2002, 05:07 PM

omg wow...NICE...

is that new? or did you get it clean like that?

slo mo · 10-25-2002, 06:47 PM

bah, who needs cams when there's turbochargers

Si4WS · 10-25-2002, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by slo mo
bah, who needs cams when there's turbochargers

poor mofo's like me.

SilverLudeSi · 10-25-2002, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by prelude2005
omg wow...NICE...

is that new? or did you get it clean like that?

Not new, they cleaned it at portflow.

PreludeNYC · 10-26-2002, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by SilverLudeSi

Yeah that's what portflow did with mine since they couldn't find any springs/retainers specifically for the h23. Because of the spring bases on stock h23's, you can't run dual springs. By swapping the spring bases for ls ones, they could put in stiffer dual springs. Here's some pics.

wow, thats dope dood.... you gotta good setup.

Jose